Update on Windows 7 RTM

Update on Windows 7 RTM

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I’d like to offer up a little insight into the “Release to Manufacturing” (RTM) for Windows 7.

Over the past week, there have been many rumors surrounding RTM.

We are close, but have not yet signed off on Windows 7. When we RTM you will most certainly hear it here. As we’ve said all along, we will RTM Windows 7 when it’s ready. As previously stated, we expect Windows 7 to RTM in the 2nd half of July.

Windows 7 will be available in many languages from around the world. For us to consider RTM “done”, it requires that all languages be completely finished. So there is a lot of work that needs to take place for us to finalize all languages of Windows 7. We also need to get to a point of “global readiness” with our partners. Our partners being ready for Windows 7 is extremely important to RTM. As Steven Sinofsky mentions in this blog post in May, RTM isn’t a single point in time. It’s the beginning of the next “process” for Windows 7. At RTM our partners begin their final preparations for Windows 7, including testing and building images for new PCs. RTM is essentially the final “stage” of engineering for Windows 7 before it hits the market at General Availability (GA). As Steven notes, engineering continues on Windows 7 from RTM until GA on October 22nd.

Another thing to keep in mind is that when we do a specific build internally of Windows 7 we have an extensive step-by-step validation process to ensure quality. This process takes time. Just because a single build may have “leaked” it does not signal the completion of a milestone such as RTM. As always, don’t believe everything that you read on the Internet - except this post ;-).

Everyone is super excited about this version of Windows. I continue to get a ton of questions about some of the things that happen after we RTM. I would like to answer some of those questions:

Once Windows 7 is complete, how do I get it?

The answer depends on who you are:

  • MSDN & TechNet Subscribers: Subscribers will be able to download the final version of Windows 7 a few weeks after we announce RTM.
  • Volume License (VL) Customers: Customers with Software Assurance for Windows will be able to download the final version of Windows 7 Enterprise a few weeks after we announce RTM. As announced today by Bill Veghte during his WPC09 keynote, customers without Software Assurance will be able to purchase Windows 7 through Volume Licensing on September 1st.
  • Consumers, Enthusiasts, & Beta Testers (Everyone else): The retail version of Windows 7 will be available in stores October 22nd. If you pre-ordered Windows 7, it should be delivered sometime around the October 22nd timeframe (depends on the retailer). You can pre-order Windows 7 today through many online retailers like the Microsoft Store.
  • On New PCs: OEMs are expected to start shipping new PCs with Windows 7 pre-installed on them around October 22nd.

Can I continue to use the Windows 7 Release Candidate (RC) until I receive the RTM version?

Yes, you can continue to use the RC until it expires on June 1st, 2010 (expiration starts March 1, 2010 – this is when the reboots start – final expiration on June 1). Please note that “in-place” (or direct) upgrades from the Windows 7 RC to RTM will not be supported. You will be required to do a Custom installation (aka “clean install”).

I am a TechNet or MSDN subscriber. Will I get a product key?

MSDN and TechNet subscribers, as well as Volume License customers will have access to product keys (PIDs) when Windows 7 is made available to them. Product keys for Windows 7 RTM will be different than the product keys used for Windows 7 Beta and the release candidate. Windows 7 Beta or RC product keys *will not* work with Windows 7 RTM.

I am using one of the so-called “leaked” builds of Windows 7, how will I know if it is the real deal?

As always, beware of what you download. There are many bogus copies of Windows 7 floating around the Internet. More often than not, they contain a rather nice malware payload. And don’t believe everything you read on the Internet. When Windows 7 hits RTM, it will be announced here. Until that happens, any builds you are likely to see on the web are either not the final bits or are laced with malicious code.

How do I get a 64-bit copy of Windows 7?

The Upgrade and Full packaged retail product of Windows 7 Home Premium, Windows 7 Professional, and Windows 7 Ultimate will come with both 32-bit and 64-bit DVDs. With Windows Vista, the 64-bit version was only available with Windows Vista Ultimate. Due to the incredible adoption of 64-bit today and customer feedback, we decided to change this for Windows 7. Now all copies of Windows 7 in developed markets will ship with both 32-bit and 64-bit DVDs.

I want to emphasize that delivering Windows 7 at the highest quality possible is the biggest criteria we have for hitting RTM. Our top focus is a super high quality release of Windows first and foremost.

Thanks, and check back soon for more Windows 7 news.

Still have questions about Windows 7? Leave your questions below as I have several colleagues here in Redmond waiting to answer any question Windows 7 related you might have.

UPDATE 7/14: Updated information for Volume Licensing.

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  • gejfay
    1 Posts

    I second the concern about the lack of the promotional upgrade for Vista Ultimate users. Limiting the upgrade to Business and Home made me believe an Ultimate offer was coming. It was not clear to me that Windows7 Business would upgrade my Vista Ultimate, so I lost my opportunity.

    I sincerly hope there will be an opportunity for Ultimate users to take advantage of some promotion.

    Thanks

  • I have Vista 64 bit Business from MSDN-AA. Is it legit from there although activate and shown as genuine.  Your column says "With Windows Vista, the 64-bit version was only available with Windows Vista Ultimate."

  • "With Windows Vista, the 64-bit version was only available with Windows Vista Ultimate." is a whether odd statement since I was only able to get vista business 64 bit off of MSDN-AA two months ago which i am running.  It has been activarted as genuine software.  If it said and says it is Vista Business 64 bit and Vista 64 bit is only available in Ultimate, what do I have?  Will I be able to upgrade it to Windows 7 Business or Ultimate (a major reason I did not use XP 64 bit was it was not upgradable.)

  • Korn1699
    114 Posts

    @Andy_at_Work

    The build this post was originally about was 7600.16384.  Its only been since the weekend that people have been talking about 7600.16385, although I wish someone would say something official about it...

  • Thanks for Nice information and Miki's clarification, sounds clearer. Unfortunately Internet still claimed that the build 7600.16385 is the signed off RTM version. Maybe I overlooked something.  

    I won't mind to try any leaked build of Windows 7 RTM / Pre-RTM however I would only take serious look on the official RTM from Microsoft as I think only the official copy from Microsoft would get completelly upgrade in future.

  • dhp
    1 Posts

    Hey All!

    First off, Thank You for the opportunity to interact w/ you!

    Next, I have several questions about Windows 7, some of which have been answered by the trade press, but I still wish to have those answers corroborated by a Microsoft representative:

    1)  What legal upgrade paths will there be for FPP Windows 7 (e.g. can I legally upgrade from Windows XP home to Window 7 Professional)?

    2)  What technical upgrade paths will there be for FPP and OLP Windows 7 (e.g. if I can upgrade from Windows XP Home to Windows 7 Professional, will I need to format the drive and wipe everything out or can I do an in-place upgrade and not lose any of my information)?

    3)  How far back will we be able to upgrade from, legally for FPP Windows 7 (e.g. can I upgrade from Windows 2000 or  Windows XP or Windows Vista etc ….)?

    4)  Will there be an FPP Windows 7 Additional License Program like there was for Vista (see: windowsvistablog.com/.../purchasing-additional-windows-vista-licenses.aspx)

    5)  What will Microsoft’s Post Sales Support be for Windows 7 (for Windows Vista Microsoft offered 90 days free tech support from date of activation – see: support.microsoft.com/.../default.aspx)?

    6)  Will there be any DownGrade Rights for FPP Windows 7 SKU’s, e.g. will FPP Windows 7 Professional allow me to downgrade to Windows XP Pro or will MS stick to its traditional model where no FPP product has any DownGrade rights w/o Software Assurance?

    7)  Will FPP Windows 7 Anytime Upgrade skus include both 32 bit and 64 bit media like the other FPP Windows 7 skus?

    8)  Will a Windows 7 Upgrade require the presence of an activated qualifying desktop operating system in order to install?

    See: www.maximumpc.com/.../windows_7_upgrade_edition_will_require_activated_copy_verification_each_time_it%E2%80%99s_installed

  • wesleyh
    3 Posts

    I like many others regret buying Vista. I like the OS but since I bought ultimate I am very disappointed. With all the promises that we were given and now we have nothing to show for paying the ultimate price this is wrong. I think if Microsoft does not do anything really special for Vista Ultimate users, like provide Win7 Ultimate for free for each copy we have and give us ultimate users a home site license then I think there should be a class action for false advertising. If any other company did this like a car company say the car has something then they turn around and say sorry we are not doing this or the car does not have this and yet all the info and paperwork says it should and no you can not return the car because they lied and provide false info they will get sued. Knowingly providing false info on a product is Fraud and if Microsoft does not make up for it they should be sued by all of us Vista Ultimate Users for an entire Refund for each copy of windows we have.

  • wesleyh
    3 Posts

    I like many others regret buying Vista. I like the OS but since I bought ultimate I am very disappointed. With all the promises that we were given and now we have nothing to show for paying the ultimate price this is wrong. I think if Microsoft does not do anything really special for Vista Ultimate users, like provide Win7 Ultimate for free for each copy we have and give us ultimate users a home site license then I think there should be a class action for false advertising. If any other company did this like a car company say the car has something then they turn around and say sorry we are not doing this or the car does not have this and yet all the info and paperwork says it should and no you can not return the car because they lied and provide false info they will get sued. Knowingly providing false info on a product is Fraud and if Microsoft does not make up for it they should be sued by all of us Vista Ultimate Users for an entire Refund for each copy of windows we have.

  • TXX
    1 Posts

    windows 7 signed off guys:

    eswindows7.com/.../Windows-7-Gold-Code.Xie.jpg

  • Okay this is probably a stupid question, but I'm confused about the upgrade and pricing to Windows 7. My computer came with Vista Home Premium 32-bit, but I scrapped that and installed the 64-bit Ultimate SP2 version and it runs very smooth, no problems whatsoever.

    I know the upgrade is going to cost $219.00 for current XP or Vista users, but when it comes time to purchase it in the store, how do go about showing the seller that you're upgrading instead of getting the full-packaged retail version. $219 is high enough as it is, I can't see myself spending another $100.

  • danchm
    1 Posts

    I hope Win7 will not issue -

    before they have TABBED the WINDOWS EXPLORER !!!

    Every explorer/browser has it done already - exept MS.

    WHY ???

  • Duane Duane
    52463 Posts

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  • I am currently using Windows 7 RC. This says it's the 'Ultimate' version. When I buy a copy of 'Home Premium' will it install over the RC version without having to reformat the HDD?

  • just curious, as an admin I have always enjoyed the "uptime" command.  Will they update it or come out with a new one that works with Windows7 and Server 2008 event logs. ?

  • Korn1699
    114 Posts

    That says there isn't a host for it, so you can't connect to it.  This is a page I heard about that goes into a lot of the details:  www.winsupersite.com/.../win7_skus_compare.asp

  • hajj_33
    9 Posts

    im not sure where this table is from but it says that there is no remote desktop in home premium:( - img269.imageshack.us/.../43585373.jpg

    could an MS employee give me a link to the official page with a comprehensive table of features like this.

  • Korn1699
    114 Posts

    @Win7BetaTester

    It isn't just video that uses up that space.  Any controllers that the CPU directly interacts with get used by it, and that is limited to 2^32 addresses.

  • Korn1699
    114 Posts

    Microsoft hasn't released anything official about family pack details yet, so everything is still one copy per PC (even though some come with 32 and 64 bit disks)..  Those apps would depend on their manufacturer's requirements.  Home premium should have remote desktop to remote into another computer, but if you want to remote into your computer without a 3rd party app, you need pro or better.

    That info is from official posts elsewhere.

  • @ruphace1

    I'm not from MS but I think I can answer your question...

    Because of the way PC hardware is set up (basically because of the limitations imposed from Day 1 of DOS, where nobody thought you needed more than 640K of RAM), and because everything then was 32-bit, video memory space on a 32-bit OS maps into the region just UNDER the 4GB range, which is the max memory a 32-bit OS can address. With a 64-bit OS, all of the RAM is accessible since the video memory can be mapped outside of the 4GB  area. So, under as 32 bit OS you will get about 3.25GB of usable RAM with 4GB of physical memory, but Vista SP1 and later (if I remember correctly) will report it as 4GB, even though you can't use it. Basically, the last .75GB is reserved for video memory mapping.

    Theoretically, a 64-bit OS can address 16 EXAbytes of memory (!) but, obviously, hardware limits that. I also think MS limits regular (non-server) versions of Windows to like 8GB of RAM.

    Corrections to this are welcome!

  • hajj_33
    9 Posts

    is remote desktop available in home premium? if not can i use realvnc, pcanywhere or similar applications?

  • hajj_33
    9 Posts

    i'd prefer an official response and an information from a legality point of view whether i can use vmware on it or not.

    another question i have: can i legally install win7 home premium full retail on 2 pc's, has the licensing terms changed in windows7, i know theres a family pack that allows i think either 3 or 5 pc's, am i legally just allowed to use it on 1 pc? Technically can i use it on more than 1 pc, would there be issues with WGA if i run say 64bit home premium on my desktop and 32bit home premium on my netbook?

    you guys really need to make a page on your windows7 site will all these types of questions because forums all over the net have conflicting answers, you need to clear up the questions so that people can pre-order now as there's some nice prices for pre-order in UK. £80 for pro full retail from ebuyer.com and £44.97 for home premium full retail from amazon.co.uk but i want to know the answers from the questions i've posted in this topic before i pre-order.

  • Korn1699
    114 Posts

    @hajj_33

    XP Mode is basically a separate windows license for XP which can run in Windows 7 similar to Virtual PC or in the form of a single app.  If you have it so an app is running from XP Mode, it will work like a regular app, but it will be skinned as XP and be running through the XP virtual.  I am able to run Access 97 on my 64 Bit Win 7 RC machine that way.

  • hajj_33
    9 Posts

    regarding home premium not having XP mode available...

    do you mean win7 will have this functionality by default or will we have to download MS Virtual PC?

    Have you stopped VMWare from being able to run XP in a VMware workstation with home premium or do you just mean virtual pc wont run on home premium?

    Why did you remove this feature from home premium, alot of home users like myself use this feature but i dont use any business functions like domains, im disapointed that you decided to remove this functionality.

  • Korn1699
    114 Posts

    @ruphace1

    That isn't really a restriction by windows..That is a restriction by 32 bit addresses.  When using your processor in 32 bit mode, you can only access 2^32 addresses or 4GB, but that includes all your other hardware too.

    Some Windows Server versions can access more memory in 32 bit mode by splitting the address location to two 32 bit parts, which would end up taking more time to process the same thing as it would with less memory on 32 bit or on 64 bit.

    What problems are you having with 64 bit?  I've run 64 bit on a few machines for about 3 years now without any major issues..

  • Yeah Hi

    My Question / Query may have been answered somewhere but i cant seem to find anything about it anywhere..

    With a 32 bit system and looking at running win 7 will i finally have full access to my RAM or is this still only accessible to 64 bit systems

    ie:   windows 32bit - only able to access 4gig of memory while windows 64 can go anywhere near and or passed 32gig if motherboard will allow.......

    and if it is - this is a major fault in windows 7 that should be fixed immediately?

  • Blu-Ray playback: While I was hoping that W7MCE would have the capability to play back nativly, will there at least be a way to install a codec that we purchase seperatly so we don't have to switch apps every time we change media types?

    Other than that, I've been quite happy with Windows 7.

  • Jim
    6 Posts

    I know you guys are busy and I do understand that.  However, if you are reading all these posts as you say you are, what about the WORK AT HOME program?  I see you have answered the MSDN questions but as a tech provider at our University, it would be nice to know if the faculty is going to be able to purchase and what version will be available and even as important, WHEN will the "WORK AT HOME" program will be able to offer Windows7 for our faculty...

  • FireRx
    5 Posts

    You guys are going to sweep the Intel Extreme Edition processor issue under the rug, aren't you? This Operating System deserves to be PREFECT. not flawed like Vista, or Windows Me.  I've been telling you folks about this issue since the Alpha build, so there is no excuse. Their are many, many new system builder/ people that want to learn how, out here now. Sorry , Steven, we disagree on that one. Please fix before you go any futher, and save the embarassment of explaining why Windows 7 won't read year old processor speed correctly if you have an open multiplier processor. This ought to be good, telling people that paid an average of $1000, that Win 7 won't report the Clock speed correctly.

  • FireRx
    5 Posts

    You know guys, I know you busy answering question,people should read the entire blog first. The answer to most of your questions in already there [sigh].  For the life of me, I can't usderstand why some of you folks in the feild haven't caught this. Especially you gamers, and Overclockers. MS Win 7 Team, Are you , or Are you not going to address the Intel  Extreme Edition processor issue with Windows 7 before it leaves the gate? I sounded of on this issue WAAAAaaaaay back on the Alpha build.  I'm telling you, there more enthusiast system builders out here than you think. Steve's under the impression that their a minority. I'm sorry, man. You Wrong. There's so many first time system builders out here. I know because I help them with tech support stuff. The worst thing you folks can do is release a brand new O/S that doesn't read clock speed correctly on year old processors. I 'd think that would be embarrassing. This Operating System has to be PERFECT, not flawed with short comings.  It this what you guys want for a rep coming from problem O/S's like Vista, and Windows Me?

  • If we are running the RC, when the Retail comes out, can we buy the disc, and upgrade the OS straight to Win7 Retail?

  • Why go there for a version of Windows 7 Build 7600 32 bit and 64 is real or false,

    SIZE: 3,224,717,312 bytes

    CRC: 1EE7DC6F

    MD5: E6CE9644D0C7A8E1C950D257A7B2C8A4

    SHA1: 31849B315290EFABFD81F967ED3C553D82925E4C

  • Will win7 available at MSDNAA at the same time as at MSDN and TechNet?

  • My question is this, with so many leaks there are today because Microsoft does not clarify why the DR and p2p are many different versions of Windows 7 and what is the purpose of these pages are inventing so many viruses that exist today To date, I do not agree with so many mysteries, everything has a beginning and an end, but the reason why so many mysteries to be hiding out of Windows 7 because users are tired of so many leaks and because it does not put a control on it so users only have access to true information and not be speculating, why not make a single declaration will be announced as and when, day, month, hour and year, where it will be put on sale the RMT of Windows 7 so that users worldwide will have something positive and a real idea of how you make the new version of Windows 7 RTM Final.

    and that this is not so much speculating on RTM Windows 7 and be finished once and for all the bad informaiones

  • @honolululu

    The "thier" was quoted from the original message, and the misspellings were deliberate to show how not using a spell checker can cause problems. It's WAY too easy to fat-finger!

  • BL4CK
    4 Posts

    if u say so :)

  • @BL4CK

    No changes from RC to RTM on sounds/icons/themes.  But this is a significant change from Vista relative to the themes inbox. :)

    Thanks,

    Mike

  • ^As an aside, a spell checker is a good thing, too.

    Not sure if you were playing with your "thier"  up there Win7BetaTester, but you also misspelled "it" and "the"

  • @incy247

    "Microsoft have run beta tests just like these for years, Windows 7 beta just happens to be the most widely publicised. Beta testers offered thier help voluntarily and don’t expect 'something for thier efforts'."

    There is a group of INVITED testers called Technical Beta Testers that, in previous beta tests, always got a copy of RTM for their work. This time around, they've been treated like garbage, not even getting a "thank you" from the guy in charge. Before you post, you should know what you're talking about; if you had access to the Beta newsgroups you'd understand how angry the testers are about jt.

    And, no, they did NOT run tests like this for years. In the past, beta testing was limited to a limited group. I do not consider the public downloaders of tbe Beta or RC as "Beta Testers", even though Microsoft may.

    As an aside, a spell checker is a good thing, too.

  • Korn1699
    114 Posts

    DreamSpark doesn't have Vista Ultimate, so I wouldn't think so...  They will probably have a copy through their Ultimate Steal site.

  • Will DreamSpark offer Windows 7 Ultimate when RTM releases?

  • hajj_33
    9 Posts

    Will SP1 be slipstreamable with Windows7? With office 2007 you put the service in /updates/ and it installs those after office has finished installing, will there be a procedure or an application that can actually slipstream the files like we could with windows xp? properly slipstreaming means lower filesize of the .iso so it will copy the files quicker to hdd during installation of windows and it wont need to update the files after installing normally.

    Will new versions of IE, WMP and .net frameworks be included in future service packs or will we have to download those seperately like we have had to do with previous versions of windows?

    Why havent you included Silverlight3 in windows7? forcing users to download a 5mb installer will put people off, having it installed by default would have given silverlight a chance at becoming mainstream, like when you included .net framework in vista. Only when you included .net in vista did .net really take off as users had to download 20mb+ installers to just use a program like paint.net.

    Hope to hear back from you MS.

  • @everyone

    First off thanks for all the questions.  I'm trying to answer as many as I can while running Windows Product Management (my day job) so thanks for your patience.  

    I wanted to take a minute to explain and carify what happened at WW Partner Conference.  The press transcript that many of you read at www.microsoft.com/.../07-13-09WPC2009keynote.mspx outlines Bill Veghte and quotes him as saying "This morning we will release Windows 7 to manufacturing, and we write that next chapter, we go after that opportunity."  The transcript recorder did not accurately record Bill Veghte and what he really said.  He said "This month we will release Windows 7 to manufacturing, and we write that next chapter, we go after that opportunity."  

    You can watch Bill Veghte's actual video here and see he in fact says "this month" and not "this morning":  www.microsoft.com/.../videoGallery.aspx.  The video you want is is called "Microsoft Worldwide Partner Conference On-Demand Day One Keynote Webcast" and if you go to time 46:30 and listen to 47:00 you will hear Bill and his statement.

    I am sorry this has confused a lot of people and we have teams fixing the transcript at the URL to reflect what Bill actually said at WW Partner Conference.  This is one of those "bugs" that happens and is very hard for us to actually catch.  Thank you for highlighting this error for us!

    Thanks,

    Mike

  • incy247
    4 Posts

    @Win7BetaTester

    Microsoft have run beta tests just like these for years, Windows 7 beta just happens to be the most widely publicised. Beta testers offered thier help voluntarily and don’t expect 'something for thier efforts'.

  • Wow... two people have asked about Beta testers getting nothing for their efforts and no response from Brandon or Mike to either one. I guess since Beta Testers are "everyone else", just like consumers and  enthusiasts, it speaks volumes about what Microsoft thinks of "everyone else"... basically, nothing but a revenue stream.

  • Jim
    6 Posts

    I work for a University.  We have volume licensing and the "work from Home" program.  Will 7 be offered to use and in what versions and when and for what price?

  • Thanks Mike for the prompt reply, I hope that the Windows 7 launch is a success and like many others can hardly wait for the final release, and no doubt the new hardware that will be released to coincide with the big event.

    Kind Regards, newscientist2000

  • Havoc
    12 Posts

    @Korn1699

    Thanks Korn1699.  I want to first make sure everyone who reads this understands that we value the feedback in this blog and we do read it very carefully.  

    I am very aware of the amount of feedback that was given regarding Windows Vista Ultimate and the lack of any offer during our Windows 7 Home Premium Upgrade and Windows 7 Professional Upgrade offer programs.  While those programs certainly excited many of our customers, it was clear our Ultimate customers felt like we ignored them.  I can understand why you feel that way.

    I don't have anything to announce right now and I know that is frustrating not only for you but other Ultimate users.  I want you to know I understand this.  What I can tell you is that we heard the feedback and we are evaluating options to ensure we can satisfy all of our loyal customers as much as possible.

    Please stay tuned.

    Thanks,

    Mike

    Mike,

    I am a windows Vista Ultimate consumer, and while i am very upset taht i paid the highest price for an OS that you had, only to be let down with what MS promised me, At least now i know that MS is trying to work out something for us.

    Thank you for letting us know MS didnt foget about us

    Havoc

  • rrx
    1 Posts

    Hi, I want to buy a licence (retail x64 Windows 7) for 2 pc (desktop+laptop), later in october. What type of license should I buy?

    Thanks in advance.

  • BL4CK
    4 Posts

    BILL VEGHTE said RTM out and now u say not yet ... u guys u really need to find better way to work togehter

  • BL4CK
    4 Posts

    BILL VEGHTE said RTM out and now u say not yet ... guys u should really find better way to work 2gether

  • What is the status of Windows 2008 Server R2?

    1.  Will it be RTM on the same date as Windows 7

    2.  Will it be available on MSDN/Technet on the same date as Windows 7

    3.  Will it have the same build number as Windows 7

  • There is noting metaphoric about the statement ...

    "This morning we will release Windows 7 to manufacturing"

    Can someone from MS comment on this statement? As it was said in the first few words of the speech of Microsoft Senior Vice President, Windows Business, Bill Veghte

  • maybe they say it metaphorically.

  • hajj_33
    9 Posts

    www.microsoft.com/.../07-13-09WPC2009keynote.mspx

    you announced the RTM yesterday, why deny it?

  • hajj_33
    9 Posts

    Why are you lying saying Windows7 hasn't gone to RTM yet when yesterday at your press conference you said it has gone RTM:

    "This morning we will release Windows 7 to manufacturing, and we write that next chapter, we go after that opportunity."

    this is from 1/3rd the way down this page: www.microsoft.com/.../07-13-09WPC2009keynote.mspx

  • wolft
    7 Posts

    Hello Brandon,

    you wrote: "Windows 7 will be available in many languages from around the world. For us to consider RTM “done”, it requires that all languages be completely finished. So there is a lot of work that needs to take place for us to finalize all languages of Windows 7."

    Vista was RTM before all the languages are done. You know that. I was in the Vista Beta-test. But I'm still disappointed in the many Vista Bugs. Now we the get real Vista Service Pack or better we now get with Windows 7 the Vista we didn't get in November 2006. Windows 7 is Gold and you know that.

    wolft

  • Thank you for this interesting post.

    But I have have one question, which incy247 also asked below.

    When will Windows 7 RTM be available in MSDN-AA? Also in August/September or must we wait until October 22nd or even longer?

    Thanks a lot!

  • Hello there!

    So as you all probably know build 7600 (compilation number 16385) is surfing the Webs.

    It's been verified, setup.exe is digitally signed (tested by me). license file contains RM.0, etc.

    As i understand you'll greenlight it once the language packs are ready? And perhaps change compilation build accordingly. But 7600 is a finalized product theoretically?

  • dovella
    303 Posts

    for me................24 jul

  • trell
    1 Posts

    The beta tester  have worked for nothing, not even the iso RTM receive?

  • BL4CK
    4 Posts

    hey Mike and Branadon thx 4 the respond but one of the guys asked very crystal clear question and mike put very different answar puting some links to windows 7 themes , the question was about the new windows 7 icons , sounds and screensavers so if we talk about the ones that wat windows 7 has now will talk about vista couz it's almost the same sounds , icons and screensavers so is theres any new things will appear on the final RTM i mean about icons sound etc the genral UI ????

    thx

  • 7flavor
    352 Posts

    Dear Microsoft, when Windows 7 is indeed released to manufacturing, please let us know:

    1.  The exact build number in detail.

    2.  What are the minor changes from RC to RTM.

    Looking forward to RTM, can't wait, I'm too excited and emotional about Windows.

  • @yusher,

    the version number of Windows 7 - 6.1 - will remain the same as it has been for the beta and RC. Windows 7 is version 6.1.

  • Gary
    12 Posts

    what about us partners that have action pack subscriptions? are we second class citizens? nobody ever mentions us.

  • yusher
    1 Posts

    will windows7 have version 7 as vista is 6.0 ?

  • JillB
    1 Posts

    So far, it has been announced that those of us in Europe will not be able to install Windows 7E over Vista and will instead have to do a clean install, necessitating a reinstall of all of our software. However, will there ever be an upgrade version for us?

  • Perhaps you could comment about why the Beta Testers are being grouped together with consumers and enthusiasts after we have done so much to help Microsoft make Windows 7 a great product. There is a pretty widespread feeling throughout the beta community that our opinions and help have not been appreciated or recognized properly by Microsoft or its executives.

  • @newscientist2000

    Hi newscientist2000,

    We don't really view launch as a single point in time.  Our approach has been, and will continue to be, that launch really started with the Beta, continued with the RC and goes well beyond RTM and general availability of Windows 7.  We think of "launch" as a momentum builder that continues throughout the product life-cycle.  

    We do not have any firm details regarding what we plan to do on the day Windows 7 is generally available that we can communicate right now.  A bunch of folks continue to work on the plans, along with the aggregate continuation of launch plans through the year and beyond.  We do have some exciting ideas and we all can't wait to unleash them.

    Bill (Gates) is not part of the plan of record for any of the "launch" activities.

    Thanks,

    Mike

  • Hi,

    As to my knowledge, my University has a subscription where the Uni. Program Admi has the only previledge to download resources and then distribute them, hes currently abroadso we cant get a clear news from him,

    What is the subscription Name for the above ?

    and will this subscription let Windows 7 to be downlaoded ?

    Im Confused with the Subsription Area and need to clear the mind.

    Thank You.

  • Questions....

    are there going to be any Windows 7 launch event(s)? If so approximately when and where... I'm currently unemployed so I know I will most likely have time to go to a launch event.

    Also will Bill be at the biggest (first) launch event?

    What are the chances of ZuneHD launching around the time of Windows 7, any chance of a ZuneHD Windows 7 crossover promo, e.g. buy a ZuneHD  get a small discount on Window 7?

  • @vbcoder

    Hi vbcoder,

    Terminology can be confusing here with words like "clean" and "in-place" installs.  However, I'll answer what I think your question is and you can let me know if I missed it.  

    Upgrade media is designed for PCs that have Windows Vista installed.  So ideally you would install Windows Vista back on your PC and then do an "in-place" upgrade to Windows 7.  

    A good post on this from engineering is found here and I think it is worth a read from you:  blogs.msdn.com/.../delivering-a-quality-upgrade-experience.aspx

    Thanks,

    Mike

  • @jimmy442:

    One more link for you on Themes:  blogs.msdn.com/.../creating-saving-sharing-themes-in-windows-7.aspx

    :)

    Thanks,

    Mike

  • hello, i start havent figure it out how windows 7 e users are going to install a browser. can you tell me?

  • @Johnathan

    Once the RTM process is complete we'll know when we can hand final OPKs out to our partners, including System Builders.  Right now we just don't know exactly when that will be.  I encourage you to talk to your local Microsoft representative or use the System Builder partner websites for the latest information.

    Thanks,

    Mike

  • @Jimmy422

    Hi Jimmy442,

    We just posted a great article on themes and making Windows 7 a true global market release:  blogs.msdn.com/.../engineering-windows-7-for-a-global-market.aspx.  We also have a post about personalization here:  blogs.msdn.com/.../a-little-bit-of-personality.aspx

    We'll have a host of themes inbox and more importantly a great model for people to create themes.  Check out this URL for additional information and themes you can download:  windows.microsoft.com/.../personalize

    Thanks,

    Mike

  • @Korn1699

    Thanks Korn1699.  I want to first make sure everyone who reads this understands that we value the feedback in this blog and we do read it very carefully.  

    I am very aware of the amount of feedback that was given regarding Windows Vista Ultimate and the lack of any offer during our Windows 7 Home Premium Upgrade and Windows 7 Professional Upgrade offer programs.  While those programs certainly excited many of our customers, it was clear our Ultimate customers felt like we ignored them.  I can understand why you feel that way.

    I don't have anything to announce right now and I know that is frustrating not only for you but other Ultimate users.  I want you to know I understand this.  What I can tell you is that we heard the feedback and we are evaluating options to ensure we can satisfy all of our loyal customers as much as possible.

    Please stay tuned.

    Thanks,

    Mike

  • @incy247

    Hi incy247,

    Yes, Windows 7 RTM will be available to MSDN-AA users.  You can find more information here:  msdn.microsoft.com/.../bb250623.aspx

    Specifically from the top of that page you will see (it lists Windows 7):  

    About the Developer AA Subscription

    The MSDNAA Subscription for Science, Technology, Engineering, and Math Departments is known as Developer AA. Here's a summary of the products and services currently provided as part of your Developer AA Membership:

    Visual Studio, Windows Server, .NET Enterprise Servers (various Windows servers including Compute Cluster Server, Commerce Server, BizTalk Server, Host Integration Server, Systems Management Server, SQL Server, Exchange Server, and SharePoint Portal Server), MSDN Library, Windows 7, Windows Vista Business Edition, Windows XP Professional and Windows XP Home Edition, Visio, Microsoft Project, and the Expression Studio suite. The Developer AA subscription also provides tech support including 4 support incidents, access to the e-academy License Management System (ELMS) option for electronic management of software and license keys, DVD-based shipment option, and more.

    Thanks!

    Mike

  • vbcoder
    1 Posts

    If we can not upgrade over windows 7 RC, will we need to reinstall windows Vista in order to perform a clean install of windows 7 with upgrade media?

  • Hm, how comes Alison Watson talked about "This morning we will release Windows 7 to manufacturing" in the keynote? <duck>

    www.microsoft.com/.../07-13-09WPC2009keynote.mspx

  • @IcedCorn

    I am not sure if I'm following your question but I will take a shot at it. :)  

    By purchasing Windows 7 Home Premium Upgrade you will receive both 32-bit and 64-bit versions on separate DVD media.  So you'll have the option to install either at your desire.

    If the PC you have right now is running Windows Vista Home Premium 32-bit you can upgrade to Windows 7 Home Premium 32-bit.  The same goes for 64-bit.

    An "in-place" upgrade from 32-bit Windows Vista to 64-bit Windows 7 (or the other way around) is not possible since the core architecture is different.  This would require a fresh install of the OS but does not necessarily mean you have to format your hard disk.  We're planning a post on upgrade paths and process which will outline this in detail very soon.  

    If I've misunderstood your question please let me know.

    Thanks.

    Mike

  • @loopyoyo

    Build numbers change all the time and is related to a number of different things.  

    When we release a build we then have hundreds of ISOs to validate and so it takes time to go through all of these checks and balances to ensure the code meets our broad quality bar.  This is all part of the "RTM" process.  What we can tell you is that we have not released Windows 7 to manufacturing and our process is still underway. Any leaked builds out "there" could very well include a virus, malware or other harmful exploits.  

    Thanks for your question.

    Mike

  • In terms of leaked builds have a look at this Windows 7 ISO verifier www.istartedsomething.com/.../windows-7-iso-verifier

  • Any word on when system builders can get the Windows 7 OPK?

  • Any word on when system builders can get the Windows 7 OPK?

  • Any word on when system builders can get the Windows 7 OPK

  • Will we see any new icons or sounds before RTM is finished? I know Vista had them added at the last minute but now it seems a little late, which is disappointing because the logon sound is identical to vista's, and the new icons don't match any of the old icons.

  • Korn1699
    114 Posts

    Is anything going to be done about Vista Ultimate users basically being left out with the upgrade discount?  There were FOURTEEN pages of comments to a previous post and nobody from Microsoft said anything...

  • incy247
    4 Posts

    Will Windows 7 RTM be available to MSDN-AA (academic alliance) users?

  • Where is the "day in the life" video?  With past releases, you gave us a look at 24 hours in the development cycle.  It really creates a new perspective and appreciation for all you workaholics who leave mothers and babies home to go code in the trenches for months and months...  I still have my Windows 2000 commemorative edition and my Windows Vista flavored Talking Rain.  You think they're worth anything?  Congrats on the pending RTM.

  • Duane Duane
    52463 Posts

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  • I'm running 32 bit Windows 7 RC.

    When I get the final released code, I have purchased Windows 7 Upgrade Home Premium.

    I originally had the 64 bit version of Windows Vista, but I asked for and received the 32 bit version. I have both fully licensed as installed by my PC manufacturer.

    Can I upgrade using Upgrade Home Premium 7 to 64 bit Windows 7? Would a clean install mean I nuke my hard drive? Thanks.

  • Thank you for the nice post

  • users have also noticed that in the new 7600 "leak" the build string has been removed from the desktop which is what we usually see in rtm/retail versions of microsoft operating systems

  • brandon,

    can you explain the big jump in build numbers...the "supposed" new leak is 7600 vs the 7200 of the last builds? the setup.exe on the new 7600 build is digitally signed also

  • Thank you for the answers and clarifications!!.

    In my opinion if we had waited during 7 months from Beta we can wait half month.

    Thank you again.

    Julio