Windows Experience Index: An In-Depth Look

Windows Experience Index: An In-Depth Look

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For Windows Vista™

Introduction
The Windows® Experience Index is a new feature built into Windows Vista™. It is designed to help consumers understand how well Windows Vista and the software running on it will perform on a specific PC. The index achieves this by assessing the capability of the PC and assigning a score to it. Higher scores indicate a better Vista experience on your PC.

The overall PC performance is represented by the base score. The base score is derived from 5 subscores for each of the following 5 attributes:

 Processor

Calculations per second

 Memory

Operations per second

 Graphics

Desktop performance for Windows Aero graphics

 Gaming graphics

3D graphics performance. Useful for gaming and 3D business applications

 Primary hard disk

The data transfer rate of the primary hard disk

The Windows Experience Index is useful for the following:

1.      When buying a new PC, it is useful for determining the quality of the Windows experience a buyer can expect from a particular PC.

2.      When upgrading a PC, the index is useful for estimating the overall improvement a PC user can expect to get when replacing or adding a new hardware component.

3.      When buying software, the software package may include the recommended Windows Experience Index base score a PC should have in order to run the particular software application well.  If a PC has a higher base score than the score recommended by the software, the software will run well on it.

About This Document

This document describes the Windows Experience Index (WEI) Model, what it is useful for, how the scores are computed, and how consumers can use it.
The Scale of the Index
The scale of the Windows Experience Index ranges from 1 to 5.9. The higher the score for a particular component area, the better experience you can expect from that area.

The scale is useful when comparing hardware components and when comparing whole PCs. The scale was created so that a full score point of improvement usually means significant additional capabilities in the particular sub area, while a better fractional score means an incremental improvement. The integer number of a base score is referred to as the Windows Experience Index level. For example a PC with a Windows Experience Index base score of 5.3 is considered a level 5 PC.

Over time, as systems become more advanced, we expect to introduce higher levels of 6 and beyond. This will be done approximately every 12-18 months, as new innovations in hardware become available. When new base scores are introduced, existing scores will not change (i.e. a PC with a base scored of 2.2 today will score a 2.2 in the new updated index, unless its components are upgraded).


Base score definitions

Each base score level defines an improved experience over lower levels. A PC will work well running scenarios of its level in addition to scenarios of lower levels.

The base score levels at a glance:

Base Score Level

Applications and Scenarios

Description

1.0 – 1.9

Basic performance. Productivity applications, IM, web, email, simple games - like Solitaire, educational games.

Minimum specification needed to run Windows Vista™.

2.0 – 2.9

Improved responsiveness.  Same applications as a base score of 1.0 – 1.9.

PCs will run Windows Vista but in most cases will not be Aero capable.

3.0-3.9

Aero graphics, Media Center with standard definition TV, basic graphical games, basic performance while running high-end graphical games.

Minimum specification needed to run Windows Vista Premium features, including the new Aero user interface.

4.0 – 4.9

Snappy performance, high definition video, high resolution monitors, dual monitors.

Very good performing PCs.

5.0 – 5.9

Fast moving games with amazingly rich graphics, 3D modeling, high-end multimedia and high performance applications.

Top end of the PC market for the Vista time frame.

A base score of 6 and greater will be defined when new hardware innovations reach the market.

The following are detailed descriptions of each of the base score levels:

 1.0

A base score of 1.0 is intended to reflect the minimum specification needed to run Windows Vista™.  PCs that meet this level will run Windows Vista™ in a basic, but acceptable manner. This is a “catch all” level assigned to any machine that can realistically be upgraded to Windows Vista™ but won’t meet level 2 specifications.

 

 2.0

A base score of 2.0 represents the mainstream Windows Vista upgrade target system. This level of PC may run Windows Aero but users may see noticeable performance issues from time to time, especially on PCs with base scores less than 2.5 and/or 64MB of graphics memory. Performance issues may also be noticeable when opening many application windows at the same time or when using very large monitors.

 

 3.0

This is the lowest capability Windows Premium Logo PC that will ship with Windows Vista™ pre-installed. Windows Vista will generally enable Aero automatically on level 3 machines.  Aero will perform quite well on level 3 machines with single monitors.  With dual monitors (especially larger than 1280x1024), users may see noticeable performance issues from time to time, especially on PCs with base scores less than 3.5 and/or 128MB of graphics memory.

 

4.0

All Windows Vista features will run well with snappy performance.  HD playback and recording of one HD stream will work well.  3D games and other high-end 3D applications will run acceptably on Level 4 machines.  Multi-tasking will be quite good on these machines (when an application makes use of this capability). Many mid to high level 4 PCs will have dual core CPUs.

 

5.0

Level 5 PCs will dramatically exceed the Windows Premium logo requirements. They will easily run Aero-Glass on multi-monitor systems at high resolution.  First person shooters, multiple HD streams, video creation, high end multimedia applications are all characteristic scenarios of people who will be using Level 5 systems.  As Level 6 machines are not defined yet, it is possible that the highest performance and capable Level 5 machines may be re-leveled as level 6 in the future (i.e. that may happen if the new hardware is evaluated before the index is updated with the new capabilities).

 

6.0

Base scores of 6.0 and higher are not defined yet. They will be defined when the time comes and new innovations in hardware allow new capabilities. From past experience, it is expected this will happen at a rate of once every 12-18 months.

Computing the Base Score

The Windows Experience Index score – often called the base score – is always a decimal value greater than zero. E.g. the base score is a number like 3.6 or 5.6.

Since a system’s performance is limited by its slowest component, the final system base score is the lowest value of the five subscores. In the example below, the WEI base score is 3.8 and is determined by the processor’s score of 3.8.  

Note: The model logic is tolerant of one subscore being below the threshold for a particular level by 0.1.  For example, assume that in the above example, the memory score was 4.0 and the processor score 3.9.  This would mean that the processor score would marginally be the only item keeping the base score below level 4. The model addresses this issue by rounding up a single value that is below the next round level by 0.1. 

Computing Each Subscore 

Each sub score in the index was created to measure the performance of a critical piece of hardware. The scores are calculated by measuring one or more relevant performance attributes, and then converting the values (normalizing) to a score between 1.0 and 5.9.

In this section you can read what is tested for each subscore.

The CPU Score

The CPU score was created to measure the processor performance when tasked with common Windows usage activities. The processor is assessed on the following items:

1.      Compression and decompression using the LZW compression algorithm

2.      Compression and decompression using the Windows Vista compression algorithm used for hibernation files, ReadyBoost and other features

3.      Encryption and decryption assessment

4.      Computing hashes

5.      Encoding of video

The results are normalized and weight averaged in order to arrive at the final CPU sub score.

The Memory Score

The memory score measures the bandwidth of moving data into and out of memory in Mega Bytes per Second. The higher the bandwidth, the better the memory. 

Not having enough memory is a limiting factor on performance. As a result, the amount of memory in the system constrains the score value. The amount of system memory is determined by the overall system memory minus any memory reserved for graphics (if any).

 The amount of memory limits are:

Amount of memory

Highest possible score

Less than 256 MB

1.0

Less than 500 MB

2.0

512 MB or less

2.9

Less than 704 MB

3.5

Less than 960 MB

3.9

Less than 1.5 GB

4.5

The Graphics Score

This score is intended to reflect how a system will run Aero (desktop composition) and playback Windows Media Video. It measures video memory bandwidth (in mega bytes per second) and converts it to a score between 1.0 and 5.9.

If the graphics hardware does not support DirectX 9 (DX9) graphics, then the system receives a graphics score of 1.0 regardless of driver type. If the system supports DX9, but does not have a WDDM Driver (Windows Vista Display Driver Model) the system will then receive a graphics score of 1.9 at the most.

The Gaming Score

The gaming score measures the frames per second the graphics card can handle for various textures.

Additional notes:

·        If the graphics card does not support D3D 9 then it receives a Gaming score of 1.0.

·        If D3D 9 is supported, the card is DX9 capable and has a WDDM driver, it will score at least 2.0.

·        If the score is greater than or equal to 5.0 and the graphics sub-system does not support Pixel Shader 3.0 then the score is limited to 4.9

The Disk Score

The disk score measures disk bandwidth (in Mega Bytes per Second). The conversion to an index number is set up in a way that all modern disks will score at least 2.0.

Using the Windows Experience Index

The Windows Experience Index is very useful for consumers when buying a new PC, when upgrading an existing PC and when buying new software. This section explains how the index can be used in each of these situations. 

When Buying a New PC

When buying a new PC a customer is usually confronted with the dilemma of which PC to choose. A PC’s value is multi-dimensional. The value is a collection of many attributes including performance, industrial design, noise, size, weight, power consumption, connectors, capacity of disk & memory, peripherals (DVD burner, etc.), networking, included software, and more. The most difficult aspect to understand is how well the PC will perform when running Windows and other software and the type of experience you can expect. The only way to do this today is to look at a long and arcane list of technical terms and try to figure out what the combination of them would mean when running Windows. This is very difficult to do, even for the most experienced customers.

This is where the Windows Experience Index comes in. It can help you while shopping for a new PC:

1.      First, determine the base score level of PC you are looking for. This can be done using the “base score levels table” on page 4.

2.      Second, look for PCs with that base score level or higher. For example, if you determined you need a PC with a base score of 3.0, look for PCs at level 3.0 and above.

3.      To determine which PC to buy, look at all the additional characteristics each PC provides and determine which package if the right one for you.

4.      To compare the experience you can expect to get from 2 different PCs, you can check their WEI base scores as well as their subscores for each of the five areas.

When Upgrading a PC

The WEI score is very useful when upgrading a PC. The following examples illustrate how the WEI score can be used when considering an upgrade.

Ordering upgrades directly from the PC manufacturer

Rachel, a PC user decides to upgrade her PC after starting to view videos and editing photos on it. She goes into “Performance Information and Tools” from the control panel. Her system rating shows a WEI base score of 2.1. She has determined that a base score of 3.0 or greater is sufficient for her needs.

 

 

 

On the bottom, next to the logo of the PC manufacturer, Fabrikam, she notices the following link: “View ways to increase your rating”. After clicking it, she is directed to the Fabrikam web site which suggests a few upgrade options for her. She chooses the components she is interested in and is given directions for a self upgrade or for sending her PC in for the upgrade to level 3. Note: This link will be provided by certain PC manufactures that offer upgrades.

Manually Upgrading a PC

Consider a customer who owns the following PC:

Processor

4.7

 

Memory (RAM):

2.9

Graphics:

4.3

Gaming graphics:

4.2

Primary hard disk:

4.1

The customer has recently bought a digital camera and is now using the PC with many more programs running concurrently. Due to the added load on the PC, the customer feels the PC is less responsive than it used to be. He thus goes into “Performance Information and Tools” in the control panel to try to discern how to improve the PC performance. Looking at the WEI results presented there, it is clear that the base score of the PC is significantly impacted by the memory score which is by far the lowest score. To improve performance, it seems that adding more memory or putting in faster memory if possible would be the method of choice for improving performance.  Checking the amount of memory in the PC by clicking on the “View and print details”, the customer discovers that the PC has only 512MB of RAM available. This indicates that the low memory score is probably due to lack of memory. The conclusion would be to check if the PC can support more memory and upgrade it. 

Consider this second PC:

Processor

5.5

 

Memory (RAM):

5.3

Graphics:

3.1

Gaming graphics:

3.0

Primary hard disk:

5.1

 

This customer has recently bought a new game. The game works well on this PC but is throttled back due to lack of performance by the PC. The customer decides to take a look at the WEI score by going into “Performance Information and Tools” in the control panel. Looking at the scores, it is apparent that this PC could benefit from an upgrade of the graphics card. The customer walks into a computer retail store and looks for a graphics card with a manufacturer recommended component subscore of 5.0 or higher on it. The customer ends up buying a Fabrikam series graphics card and upgrading his/her PC. After the upgrade, the new game graphics are smoother and have additional lighting effects. When looking at the WEI scores after the upgrade, the customer notices the new PC score has changed from 3.0 to 5.1.

The new score is the following: 

Processor

5.5

 

Memory (RAM):

5.3

Graphics:

5.3

Gaming graphics:

5.6

Primary hard disk:

5.1

The new base score is now determined by the primary hard disk subscore, which is now the lowest of the subscores.

When Buying Software

When buying software, knowing your PC base score is very useful. With it you can determine if the software you are buying will run well on your PC. Microsoft is working with software vendors to use the base score and subscores for recommended system requirements. We expect to have some software vendors using it at the time of Windows Vista launch and many more following the launch.

When determining if your PC can run a specific software package, look for the system requirements section on the retail product packaging. The recommended WEI score is the base score the software vendor recommends your PC should have to get an adequate experience when running this software application. The packaging may also include a minimum WEI base score which would indicate the minimum performance a PC should have to be able to run the application. Example: 

  

 

Summary

The Windows® Experience Index is a new feature built into Windows Vista™. It can considerably help consumers understand how well Windows Vista will perform on a specific PC, and make the buying process of new PCs, hardware upgrades, and software simpler.

The following topics about the Windows® Experience Index were covered in this document:

1.      Description of the Windows Experience Index

2.      How the scores are calculated

3.      How the index can be used in the following cases:

a.      When buying a new PC

b.      When upgrading a PC

c.       When buying software

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Posted by gfincher


Interesting post, but the information in the tables is virtually unreadable because of the color of the type - even on FireFox!  Change the colors??

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Posted by Jimothey


This is very interesting.

and would all point to me needing a bigger graphics card, as I can't seem to get the graphics and gaming index higher than 1.0!

It's running DirectX 9 and I changed the driver to WDDM in the device manager.

the graphics card I have is an ATI Radeon 9800 Pro, which I believe has 128MB RAM, which I thought was adequade to run Vista. I maybe wrong on this.

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Posted by thenay


Great article, and I agree with gfincher, some of the text is whited out, and I tried Firefox and IE7

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Posted by kikoman


Why not make a Windows Experience Index tool available for XP? That way, consumers who are planning to buy a new PC can new which specs they need.

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Posted by wdetmer


While 2 gig. of ram is recommended there is no mention of the maximum addressable by Vista.  Is this 4 gig. or is it possibly more?  I am looking at a dual 64 bit processor box with gig. ram configuration and want to know if Vista will utilize.  If so, which version and when will it be available?

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Posted by DJPias


Great blog but I have a question. Recently I have changed my "old" nVidia GeForce 6600GS with a 7300GS card. My PC had a Windows Experience Index of 3.8 with the first one but now with the new card it has an index of 2.2!!! What's wrong? The drivers are the same in both cases...

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Posted by Swampie


DJPias - the reason is the 6600GS is a better graphics card than the 7300GS.  The first digit describes the generation of the product - ie. the 7xxx is a newer technology than the 6xxx, however the 2nd digit describes where in that generation the card/chip sits.  The 66xx is likely to be better than a 73xx because the x3xx indicates it's an entry level chip, whereas the x6xx indicates it's a higher spec chip (in the range).

Don't just assume the newer the generation/technology, the better the card.

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Posted by Randomiser


The real horror about DJPias post is it suggests a 7300GS isn't sufficient to run Aero Glass. Surely that must ge wrong?

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Posted by Davids


For the last few days, I've been unable to see anything about the index scores I received whern first installing Vista.  Indeed, I am no longer able to see a link to re-rate my PC.

This is a link to what it looks like:

http://img19.imageshack.us/my.php?image=weixt7.jpg

Any idea how I can refresh this view?

Thanks

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Posted by DParks256


I have the same error as "Davids" and am not able to update or aquire a score.  I have been working on this for a couple of days now, and would appreciate any input, thanks! (the view from his screenshot is identical to mine)

Thanks, Dave

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Posted by SamC1931


First I would like to thank Microsoft, for a great product, I have been running Vista Ultimate since August on my 3year old Dell Inspiron8600 WIE score 3.0.  I am in the process of shopping for a new computer.  I do not find major vendors (such as Dell, HP, Toshiba) providing the Windows Experience Index and/or component Subscores.  There are so many choices.  I would like to end up with at least a WEI score of 5.2.

I use my computer for normal office stuff and multimedia managing photos, creating and watching video.

• Intel® Core™ 2 Duo T7400 (2.16GHz, 4MB L2 Cache, 667 MHz FSB)

•     2GB DDR2 SDRAM at 667MHZ, 2 DIMM

•     100GB 7200rpm SATA Hard Drive  (I have external drives)

•     256MB NVIDIATM  GeForceTM  Go 7900 GS Graphics Card

Will all of the above be above 5.2?

Thanks …Sam

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Posted by mikeisfly


I Had a Ati all in wonder 9800pro and i got a video index base score of 4.9 I believe I know that I was running vista(32 bit and 64bit) in areo with no problem. I was using a AMD 64 3200+ so my cpu was 4.0 and my memory was 4.0 as well (2 gig of ddr400) but since this chip is based on the 754 socket there is a limitation of the memeory controller built into these processors so my memory was 4.0 as well. I upgraded my cpu and motherboard to x2 4200+ now my score is 5.0 and my memory same (ddr400 is 5.1) I am running memory in dual channel now. I also upgrade my video to ati x1950pro PCI -e x16 now my video is 5.9 with a gaming experience of 5.8. hope this helps all.

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Posted by Davids


DParks256

If you haven't found a solution, I found a helpful soul on a Windows forum.  I presume you have Tweak installed:

http://www.neowin.net/forum/index.php?showtopic=537418

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Posted by HKG


I am running x64 ultimate and have 3gb DDR400 ram but I only get an index score of 4.0

When I first installed I had a 4.1, then after a couple driver installations I was prompted to recalculate and I got 4.0

The system does recognize I have 3gbs but why the low score?  I have the ram running in dual memory mode, all my other scores seem on par with others of similar specs.

Any insight??

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Posted by Historygeek1989


I agree with others, great explaination.  I installed Ultimate after attending the Atlanta launch event.  Vista is so much better in person.  

My issue is that I am running a Raideon 9550 256 mb card.  It has been fine to run BF2, Tomb Raider Legend, and Ghost Recon Advanced Warfighter, but according to Windows experience it rates only a 1, thus killing my overall score.  I did update with the lastest driver dated 01/30/2007.  

What am I missing here?  Suggestion?

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Posted by houru


I am also running an ATI Radeon 9550 256 mb card, and i scored in graphinc 3.6 and in gaming graphics 3.3 (my lowest score). All the games I've played so far ran just fine

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Posted by Historygeek1989


Thanks for the update houru.  Glad to hear that you are having better luck than me with your card.  Can you tell me what ATI driver version you are running?  I'm running ATI's 8.333.0.0 dated 1/18/2007.  

Everything that I have read about the experience numbers, I should have numbers similar to you.

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Posted by RADIO10465


HI,

I have a Sony VAIO vgc-ra830 g and with the rc1 of vista, my system had a 4.2 Windows Experience Index Rating. Now, it has gone down to a 2.4 with absolutely no system changes. My specs are run from 2.4 for hard disk to all the rest being 5.1 to 5.9. My hard disk is a 7,200 rpm RAID 0 320 gig hard drive. Check disk and defrag don't help. Any ideas?

Joie

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Posted by PlayerTwo


Its simple the whole idea behind the windows index experience is to get us to by more hardware! I mean who is gonna be satisfied with a low score and the only way to get a better score is to buy more hardware! No wonder the hardware vendors are so happy with MS.

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Posted by techGeek


Well, I just built a rig and I have 5.6; I'll be using it mostly for notepad and IE.

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Posted by hisham88


hey guys i have a toshiba A100 notebook here are the general specs:

T5500 1.66GHz     4.7score

2GB RAM 533mhz    4.5score

GeForce Go7600 128MB    (WinAero 3.1;  Gaming Graphics 3.8score )

200GB 5200RPM HDD       4.3score

well i was hoping someone could comment on my scores please adn why is my desktop performance for windows aero only 3.1, i thought my GPU was close to topnotch and its not even close to a score of 4.0 im just so confused...  thanks in advance guys :)

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Posted by Nick White


Hey everyone:  After conferring with one of my more technical colleagues, I thought I'd mention one point about power requirements on newer graphics cards.  Namely, many new cards on the market require supplied power of 350W or greater, and most new PCs only come with 300W supplies.

The upshot is that you have to read the requirements on newer graphics cards *very* carefully to ensure you're buying one compatible with your system.  

Please take note.

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Posted by Pyaraness


Great blog, just what I was searching for! I've got a Dell Precision 670, check out these specs: 2x (Dual CPU) Intel Xeon Dual-Core 2.6Ghz, 3GB Ram, 150GB SCSI 15k rpm running 64-Bit Ultimate Vista, here are my scores:

Processor: 5.3, Memory: 4.5, Graphics: 5.9, Gaming Graphics: 4.6, Primary Hard Disk: 5.9, overal score 4.5 (determined by memory)

I wonder how I can increase my memory speed!

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Posted by DHRammstein


Great blog, I'm very happy to see this, it's nice to see how other people are enjoying it. I'm a huge fan of Vista, running home premium on both of my machines, and I'm a huge gamer, happy to say the drivers are finally starting to get where I want them, although OpenGL based games still see a 30% decrease in overall FPS.

I just bought a HP Media Center PC m7750n

My system:

AMD64 X2 2.6ghz 5000+

2GB PC2 4200 DDR2 \ 2000mhz FSB

Serial ATA 400GB

Nvidia 6150LE Onboard (Disabled)

Nvidia 7600GT

** Too much to list**

Scores: Base Score 5.2

Processor 5.2

Ram 5.9

Graphics Desktop/Aero 5.9

Graphics Gaming 5.4

HDD 5.7

My other gaming system

AMD64 Clawhammer 3700+ 2.4GHZ S754

1.5GB PC3200

80GB/160GB = 240GB

BFG GeForce 7800GS OC (AGP)400/1250

Scores: Base Score 4.2

Processor 4.2

Ram 4.2

Graphics Desktop/Aero 5.9

Graphics Gaming 5.2

HDD 5.2

I researched plenty of benchmarks, and the 7600GT is plenty to run any DX9 game, I simply don't want to spend money on a DX9 card, not when this one is more than enough, I'm waiting to get a high end DX10 card, maybe by summer. Anyways, at $99, ya can't go wrong, I run Quake 4 maxed out on everything and it never falls below 60fps, except Oblivion, which prefers ATI cards anyways. Though I admit, if I didn't have this system supporting the card, I would need at least a Nvidia 7900, not sure of ATI, my last card was a X800 Pro, outstanding card btw.

So there it is, don't splurge on DX9, wait!!!

Also, another note for video cards. If your card does not support Shader Model 3.0, it will not score higher than 4.9. My Radeon X800 Pro scored only a 4.9, but if it supported SM3 it would have scored 5.2-5.4. For those that don't know, SM3 is new-age shader technology. Rather than try to explain, here's a good example.

Xbox = Shader Model 2.0, Xbox360 = 3.0. A good system with a SM3 high end card will look as good as a high end console, except perhaps the resolution, which requires hardcore power, though, games that support multi-threading, will perform as good on PC as next-gen consoles.

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Posted by blueck


Processor Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.00GHz 4.2

Memory (RAM) 2.00 GB 4.4

Graphics NVIDIA GeForce 7800 GS 5.9

Gaming graphics 622 MB Total available graphics memory 5.6

Primary hard disk 17GB Free (29GB Total) 5.2

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Posted by maxd


I've looked all over the web, seems like i'm the only one having this problem with rate my computer   experience index.

My system:

Dell xps m1710

windows vista ultimate oem.

I'm trying to run : Rate my computer.

I get this error: windows was unable to calculate the windows experience index because the user has canceled the assessment.

Why is this?

Thank you for your time

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Posted by Nick White


Hey maxd:  the issue could be caused by any number of actions on your part or conflicts within the system -- I'd suggest you post your question to one of our public newsgroups to see if an expert there can help.

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Posted by smilingbob


Can anyone point me in the right direction.  My scores are:

Processor 4.1 (AMD Athlon 64 3200+)

Memory 2.4 (2GB)

Graphics 5.9 (RADEON X850 XT Platinum)

Gaming Graphics 4.9

Primary Hard Disk 5.3

I am not sure why the memory score is so low.  Audio is extremely choppy.  My guess is I need new sound card drivers, but I am wondering if my memory score is also part of the problem.

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Posted by SamC1931


Dell XPS M1710 Component Details Subscore Base score

Processor Intel(R) Core(TM)2 CPU T7600 @ 2.33GHz 5.2 4.7

Memory (RAM) 2.00 GB 4.7

Graphics NVIDIA GeForce Go 7900 GS 5.9

Gaming graphics 521 MB Total available graphics memory 5.7

Primary hard disk 65GB Fee (81GB Total) 5.0

Windows Vista (TM) Home Premium

...Sam

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Posted by SamC1931


Dell XPS M1710

Component Details Subscore Base score 4.7

Processor Intel(R) Core(TM)2 CPU T7600 @ 2.33GHz 5.2

Memory (RAM) 2.00 GB    4.7

Graphics NVIDIA GeForce Go 7900 GS  5.9

Gaming graphics 521 MB Total available graphics memory   5.7

Primary hard disk 65GB Fee (81GB Total)   5.0

Windows Vista (TM) Home Premium

New from Dell ...Sam

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Posted by SkippyScoop


Im confused with the base score.. my friend has 2.0GB Ram and he have 5.0+ of Ram score and i have 1.5GB of ram and i having a rating of 2.5 only.. i have Primary Harddisk of 73GB and having 34GB free space..

(another problem is, i having 2 partition of 73GB each.. i want to combine both together so that i can solve diskspace problems).

Does anyone can help??

Thankz.

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Posted by cyph3r


Home Built PC with Vista Ultimate

Processor Intel(R) 2 X Xeon 5160 3 ghz

Memory (RAM) 4.00 GB FBDimm 667 (vista only use 3Gb), with 2 x 1Gb scored 4,7 so I upg to 4 x 1Gb doubling both size and speed (quad channel), now scores 5,9

M/B Tyan Tempest 5000XT

Graphics NVIDIA GeForce Go 8800 GTX

Primary hard disk 4 x 250 SATA Raid IME using sas controller

Secondary 2 X Seagate 145 Gb SAS 15k rpm

This configuration scored 5,9 in all sections

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Posted by matiu.carr


We have done a number of tests on various bits of equipment we currently deploy. All were tested using Vista Business/Enterprise (x86).

The results are available at http://itadmin.creative.auckland.ac.nz/FAQ/Software/Microsoft/VISTA/vista-WEI-20070405.html

In spite of the spread of the scores -all machines are very usable running Vista -the application experience (excluding games) is actually fairly consistent (Office 2007/2003, drawing/design image processing).

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Posted by nothappy


i use my laptop primarily for photo editing. but on vista i can't see my photos in normal quality (they appear pixelated), apparently because my score is too low (3.1). please explain why my new computer running vista supposedly can't do what my 6-year old laptop running XP can do, and advice me on how to override this ridiculous "feature".

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Posted by lmadzia


I WAS TOLD TO GO TO THIS WEBSIGHT TO GET THE ORDER NUMBER I NEEDED TO RECIEVE MY FREE WINDOWS VISTA UPGRADE !

I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHERE TO START LOOKING , A PHONE NUMBER WOULD BE A START. THIS IS A NIGHTMARE, THAN AGAIN THIS IS WHAT I GET FOR

JUMPING INTO A FREE OFFER !

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Posted by xinhorf


Why the windows Vista Bussiness edition has games not included in premium edition???

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Hey xinhorf:  take a look at page 19 of the Windows Vista Product Guide and you'll see that certain games are optional for the Business and Enterprise SKUs:  http://download.microsoft.com/download/c/9/8/c988dce4-1971-4ad4-a1ef-df99e596a4cc/WVPG%20RTM.xps.

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  • alik-
    1 Posts

    Hello windows team ! I have simple question about windows experience index. I would like to improve my graphics - desktop performance for windows aero score , its only 3,4. It was 3,7 before i downloaded new driver... what should i do to improve that score ?

  • clay904ton: Vista RAM rating only test RAM speed, not how big it is.

    Processor: 5.9 (Core2quad Q6600 64 bit overclocked to 3.2ghz)

    Memory: 5.9

    Graphics: 5.9  Nvidia 8800GT OC

    Game Graphics: 5.9

    Hard Disk: 5.9

    I was hoping to break the 6.0 mark. So much for that. I'm going to have to wait..

  • I'm currently running the Alienware Aurora systems with a subscore of 5.5. And my sub-scores are as follows:

    Processor - 5.5 - (AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 6400+)

    Memory(RAM) - 5.9

    Graphics - 5.9 - (NVIDIA GeForce 9600 GT)

    Gaming graphics - 5.9

    Primary hard disk - 5.9

    One thing though, I only have 2GB of RAM and my score is 5.9, but my girlfriend just bought the HP s3720y in which she has 4GB of RAM and her score is only 4.6.

    What's the issue?

  • this is to ramerstein

    hi i have the following comp

    dual core athlon 5000+   5.0

    a  Foxconn N570SMAA mobo

    vista ultimate 64 bit

    4 gigs ddr2 ram   5.9

    a 350 gig hdd  5.9

    and a nvidia 9400gt video card

    graphics 4.9

    gaming graphics 5.3

    overall 4.9

    I don't know alot about video cards, but I was wondering why your 7600gt rates better than mine?

    here is a comparison

    en.wikipedia.org/.../Comparison_of_Nvidia_Graphics_Processing_Units

    thanks

  • GreyFox
    1 Posts

    I bought a Dell 530 in May, 2008 with Vista 32 bit (pre SP1)

    Here are the scores.

    Processor 5.9 (Q6600 quad 2.4Ghz)  

    Memory 5.5 (3G of DDR2 800 Mhz)

    Graphics 3.9 (using onboard)

    Gaming Graphics 3.3 (onboard)

    Primary Hard Disk 5.7 (500 G  Samsung 501LJ).

    Including shipping and sales tax, the system was $688 including some extras.

    I upgraded my memory to 4G (Kingston 1.8V, DDR2, 800Mhz, CL 5) (cost about $59 from on-line retailer)

    I installed a MSI 8600GT twin turbo video card(core running at 600 MHz and memory at 1600 MHz factory set)

    I also upgraded to power supply to 385 W and put the system in an Antec 900 case.

    new scores with Vista 32 bit SP1 also installed:

    Processor 5.9 (Q6600 quad 2.4Ghz)  

    Memory 5.6 (4G of DDR2 800 Mhz, 1.8V, CL5)

    Graphics 5.9

    Gaming Graphics 5.6

    Primary Hard Disk 5.7 (500 G  Samsung 501LJ).

  • Well to update my last comment, Finally  got a 5.9 memory score.

    Cpu E8400   5.6

    Ram 4 gigs of 667  5.9

    Geforce 9600GT   5.9 for gaming and graphics

    HDD 160GB        5.6

  • Duane Duane
    52463 Posts

    for the error updating base score!!!  had the same error, cant run the assesmet while on batteries, so be sure u are pluged!

  • Duane Duane
    52463 Posts

    I have a Rock Pegasus 520 Laptop

    Intel Core Duo 2 T9400@2.53 Ghz

    3gig ram on Windows 32bit Premium (though 64 bit is in the post, so should have 4 gig ram when it turns up)

    GeForce 9650gt 1GB

    320GB hard disk

    Processor 5.4

    Memory 5.9

    Graphics 5.3

    Gaming Graphics 5.4

    Primary Hard disk 5.9

    overall 5.3

  • Well from reading several reviews it turns out it dosen't really matter if your linked and synched, Just that you need 2 gigs of 667,or 800 with a 1333fsb processor from intel and any Athlon x2 will give you a 5.9 memory score because of there hypertransport. If i would of known this earlier i would of got a processor with a fsb of 1333mhz. Anyways A Core 2 duo 4000 series will give you a max memory score of 5.0   It will be a 4.8 without a good graphics card or service pack 1.  The 6000 series will give you a max of 5.5 and of course the 6x50,and the 8000 series will give you a 5.9 And if your linked and synched that will just make it a lil faster but it's not required for a 5.9 memory score. Heres my current rig after lots of upgrading and i finally plan to add a E8400 So i can have a processor score of 5.7 and the rest 5.9's well besides my hard drive.  Current rig

    Processor- E4600    5.3

    Memory- 4 gigs of ddr800  5.0

    Geforce 9600GT   5.9 aero and graphics

    Hard drive 160GB  5.6

    Plan on getting the E8400 soon which will bump my score up from a 5.0 to a 5.6

  • Duane Duane
    52463 Posts

    I've come across this website through GOOGLE(ing) highest windows experience index score..

    and I'd like to share my system info....

    case: aerocool m40 (matx/cube case)

    cpu: core 2 duo e8400 3.0ghz

    ram: 6gb (running 3gb on 32bit vista) will update to 64-bit soon

    video: 9800gtx 512mb

    storage: 200gb seagate

    overall score: 5.4 (because of low hard disk)

    cpu = 5.6

    ram = 5.9

    graphics = 5.9

    hard disk = 5.4

    maybe if i upgrade the hard drive to sata and a higher size, maybe 500gb or 1tb and get a quad core it will be all 5.9 or higher if possible.

  • Duane Duane
    52463 Posts

       MATERIAL:                                                       SCORE:

    PROCESSOR: INTEL CORE 2 QUAD Q6600              5.9

    GRAPHICS: ATI RADEON 3800 SERIES 256MB         5.9

    PRIMARY HARD DISK TRANSFER RATE                  5.9

    4GB RAM   DDR3                                                     5.9

    i,m just a pc tweaker

  • Well i didn't pay attention before. But i guess you have to match memory with your FSB. So if you have a fsb of 800MHZ you either want DDR2 400 or 800, FSB of 1066 you would want DDR2 533 or 1066,and FSB of 1333 you want DDR2 667. IF you match them up i guess you get a 1:1 FSB/DRAM RAtio  Mine currently is 3:5 So i guess my E4600 can't catch up with the 2 gigs of DDR2 667 .  I hope 4 gigs of DDR 800 Should get me a 5.9 memory score instead of a 5.0 which is what i have now.

  • I used to have a pentium d 920 with 2 gigs of ddr2 533 and the memory score ws 5.3  Now i have a Core 2 duo E4600 with 2 gigs of ddr2 667 and the memory score now is a 5.0 I don't know what the deal is do i need ddr2 800 to get a 5.9? Or do i need 4 gigs?

  • Byl
    1 Posts

    I have a Radeon X1550 AGP video card with 256 MB video ram (it's VISTA Aero compatible per the documentation).

    In a Dual XEON 3.06 GHz box, it runs Aero OK, but it has a score of 2.6 in the "Windows Experience index".

    The same card will score 4.1 on a P4 2.66 GHz machine.

    All other items (CPU, RAM, etc.) score between 4 and 5.

    The Graphics and the gaming graphics are where the scores are low on the XEON machine (2.6 & 3.0 respectively), but they are 4.0 and 4.5 on the P4 -- BUT IT's THE SAME CARD WITH THE SAME DRIVERS, ETC.!!!

    Is there some hidden setting for the card that is not correct on the XEON machine or something that is not very apparent?

    I also installed the same card in a Athlon 64 3000+ with the same low scores as the XEON.

    Any ideas why this is happening and how to correct it?

    The XEON has Hyper-threading enabled as does the P4, so I don't see what the difference is.

    The Xeon has 4 GB of RAM (which the machine recognizes and uses all 4 GB) while the P4 has only 2 GB (although this is probably not an issue as the RAM scores high on both machines (between 4 and 5).

    Please let me know if anyone have any ideas on this. Thanks!

  • Silverstone Temjin TJ07B-W Black E-ATX Aluminum Case

    ASUS Striker II Extreme 790I Ultra

    Koolance Liquid Cooled 1300W/1700W ATX V2.2 24PIN SLI Ready

    Coolit Systems Boreas MTEC CPU & Dual HD 2900XT Liquid Cooler

    Samsung 305T 30IN Widescreen LCD Monitor

    Creative Labs Sound Blaster X-FI Xtremegamer FATAL1TY Professional

    2-LG GGC-H20L BLU-RAY HD-DVD Reader

    Logitech G9 Laser Mouse

    Logitech Dinovo Edge Bluetooth Ultra Slim Wireless Keyboard

    Logitech Z5500 Digital 5.1 Speakers 500W RMS

    Processor: (2-Intel Core 2 Extreme QX9770) 5.9

    Memory: (Corsair XMS3 Dominator PC3-14400 8gb) 5.9

    Graphics: (2-EVGA E-GEFORCE GTX 280) 5.9

    Gaming graphics: 5.9

    Primary hard disk: 4-Western Digital Velociraptor WD3000GLFS 300GB SATA2 10000RPM 5.9

    With all these ultra high end hardware that i've got. I should be getting a score of eight or higher. This is bs man

  • It's been almost 3 years now. Nick when are you gonna update this page? Scores of 6.0 and higher should already be in service pack 1.Or are you working on windows 7 and forgotten about vista?

  • 5.9 all across the board.

    ANTEC Nine Hundred Ultimate Gamer Case

    Intel Core™2 Quad Processor Q9450 2.66GHz w/ 12MB Cache

    Scythe NINJA Copper CPU Cooler

    eVGA nForce 780i SLI w/ DualDDR2 1200, 7.1 Audio, Dual GB Lan, 1394, PCI-E 2.0, 3-Way SLI

    Corsair 4GB XMS2-8500D Dominator TWIN2X Dual Channel DDR2 Kit (2 x 2GB) w/ Airflow Fan

    XFX GeForce 9800 GTX 512MB PCI-E Black Edition (760MHz)

    Asus DRW-2014L1T 20x DVD+/-RW Drive w/ LightScribe

    Scythe Floppy + 18-in1 Card Reader Combo Drive

    2 x SEAGATE 500GB Barracuda 7200.11 SATA II w/ NCQ, 32MB Cache

    Microsoft Windows Vista Home Premium x64 (64-bit)

  • breeves
    1 Posts

    I have a 15" MBP which spends most of its work time in Vista, either running natively (BootCamp) or in a VM (VMware Fusion on OS X 10.5.2). - The BootCamp/VM processor scores are comparable (5.3/5.2) and, understandably, BootCamp rules in graphics (5.9/1.9) and gaming (5.4/1.0) as VMware doesn't fully support DX9. But there are some puzzling anomolies in the memory and disk scores; BootCamp scores are significantly lower than VM for memory (4.8/5.9) and disk (5.2/5.9). What's with that?

  • zcribb
    2 Posts

    you need a phenom 9850 / asus deluxe 790 series with amd chipset north and south  this gives you the spider platform the motherboard is a m3a32 mvp deluxe  which has a crazy front bus speed , and the board takes 1066 ram thats 1066 ram , this is a very important part, coupled with at least a 3850x1 graphics card you will score as high as you can, i do. For the crappy score guy you probly have 667 ram which is a big help in assisting your cpu . a2400 or  7600 / or below graphics card will get you under 4s but you got to remember the scoring system only goes as high as your lowest scoring device in your computer

  • zcribb
    2 Posts

    ive been around the world and enjoyed every min of it /but now im building computers and i guess you cant get any higher than a 5.9 because thats as high as mine will go and i have only clocked to 5 percent.

  • Hi, I have not been able to update WEI score for a long time. Installing SP1 didn't help. From searching the net, it seems that many people with Pinnacle Studio have the same problem (including mreggen in this blog). I have version 10.8 installed, so I guess the problem could be related to codecs that came with this program. Is there any fix for this problem?

  • I wonder if the Windows Experience Index is affected by setting up space from an USB Flash drive and ReadyBoost feature.

    Did anyone notice any change ?

    Cheers!

  • Windows service pack 1 was launched yesterday so everyone upgrade. I didn't find any diffrence in anything. So i don't know if it will help other people,but my computer is the same. So much for all of the hype about it.

  • Thanks for the advice thats what i was thinking. So i'll just buy a new computer when windows 7 comes out,and then i can have a core 3 which is gonna be nehalem microarchtiecture

  • sorry, the address is http://windowsscores.com

  • Toname, any score above 5.9 currently is made up. There is a file which can be edited to give yourself any score you like up to 9.9.

    Robert717, I've found that updating your graphics card drivers can fix this problem.

    Jknight256 Microsoft say that a score of 5.0 will be good enough for the life cycle of Windows Vista, so I'd guess 4.7 will work for Windows 7 but a little higher would be recommended.

    This site <a href="http://windowsscores.com">Windows Experience Index Scores</a> gives a good list of laptops and their scores. And you can add your own laptop's scores too.

  • toname
    2 Posts

    The website I saw ratings as high as 9.9 is at www.shareyourscore.com.  It may have some bogus score results as I saw one score with a 9.9 and the system is running a AMD 64 3500+ 1Gb RAM and a NVIDIA GeForce 6150 LE (Microsoft Corporation - WDDM) see it here http://www.shareyourscore.com/myscore.aspx?scoreid=3767.  It may be right... but I have a system with the same built and it can't come close to a 4.0 at best.

  • toname
    2 Posts

    I saw in another website that the new WEI index has been raised to 10 is this true?

  • Heres a new chart if your looking to upgrade.

    Core2 duo's

    e4500= 5.1

    e6300= 4.9

    e6400= 5.1

    e6600= 5.3

    e6700= 5.5

    e8500= 5.9

    Memory

    2gigs of pc4200= 5.3

    2gigs of pc5300= 5.6

    2gigs of pc6400= 5.9

    Video cards. All cards with ddr 3 memory will be in the mid to high 5's. Hard drives you need probably 320gb with 10,000 rpms to get a 5.9 anything lower will be in the low to mids 5's.

    All quad core processors are 5.9's And vista service pack 1 should be out on feb 27th. I didn't put athlons on here cause they suck. But a Athlon 64x2 6000+ is on 5.4 if that tells you anyting heheh

  • Please help!

    Installed a new videoa card and Index has updated to 1.0!?!

    Dell Inspirion desktop

    Op sys = Vista Home Premium

    Ram = 3GB (score = 5.5)

    CPU = Quad Core Q6600 @ 2.4GHz (score = 5.9)

    Hard disk = 500GB (score = 5.8)

    Graphics card = nVidia GeForce 8400 GS with 512MB memory, running DirectX 10, total gaming memory = 1791 MB

    Score of 1.0 each for the graphics card and memory readings.  In details, it says "DirectX 8 or earlier" when a quick run of dxdiag reveals DirectX10 running "properly"

    I can't believe this index reading is correct, but all attempts to get the system to update for the new card have not worked.

    Any ideas what to do here?

    Thanks.

  • I was just wondering is Service pack 1 gonna launch on feb 27 with server 2008,or will it be sooner. Also like i said in my previous question will a wei score of 4.7 be good enough for windows 7. I think it will be if it's gonna launch in q2 Of 2009 that's what i hear now. If it's not and gonna launch in 2010 i think probably a score of 5 or higher will be recommended.

  • xeysz
    1 Posts

    My memory rating is 4.8 and I have 3 GB of DDR2 667 MHz clock speed.  I have updated my score but it remains at 4.8.  Is this because it is clocked at 667 MHz and not 800?

    P.S. There are three DIMMs, 1 GB each.  Two are manufactured by Dell and the other one is by Kingston.

  • mreggen
    2 Posts

    Hey again, and thanks. I've tried another solution: Seems to be some problem with the NVIDIA driver to a geforce7600GT videocard as well. Installing the Microsoft signed driver offered in Win Update, results in the message "new hardware detected..." and I'm told to update the experience index.  That I can't do. But using the latest beta-driver, no new hardware is detected and the "old" index remains.  (It's still impossible to get an updated index when I try.)

  • Nick White
    1204 Posts

    Hey mreggen:  thanks for this information, I've passed it along to the team responsible, asking them to investigate; will let you know what I find out.

  • mreggen
    2 Posts

    Hi. The win-exp.index has some compability problems.  I've been searching all over the Internet without finding any solution.  Seems like driver-updates made AFTER installing Pinnacle-Studio make it impossible to update the index-scores.  There are two suggestions available; clear the file windows\performance\winsat\datascore\....assessment.winsat.xml or to simply unistall Pinnacle Studio.  The first does not help me.  The second suggestion solves the problem, but I really think one should be able to both have Pinnacle installed, update video driver and then update the index-score.  A hotfix, may be???

  • Howdy all just installed Vista Ultimate on my machine and I have to say I love it.  I looked at this windows experience and not knowing anything about it I was upset with the score I recieved, but reading about it on the Microsoft site and reading here I am happy to see my scores are where they should be.  Thought I spent all the money on building this computer for nothing.  Scores are

    Processor-5.3 AMD Athlon 5600+ Dual Core 2.8ghz

    RAM-5.9 Corsair XMS 4 gig

    Graphics-5.9 2 EVGA GeForce 7950 KO 512mb in SLi

    Gaming Graphics-5.9

    HDD-5.9 Western Digital Raptor HD 10,000RPM

    Just curious as to why the processor only got a 5.3.  This processor is a monster.

  • Ok just got my new radeon a few days ago and here are the updated scores.

    Processor- Pentium D 920  4.7

    Memory- 2 gigs DDR2-4200  5.3

    Ati Radeon 2600Xt- Aero   5.9

    Gaming-                   5.5

    Hard Drive-               5.6

    So will a 4.7 Base score be good enough for the next version of windows. Codename 7/Vienna?

  • As i was just writing my last blog i was thinking. Nick when are you gonna update this page? Cause you still haven't since sept 26 i think it says at the top? Probably after SP1 Comes out and the score goes up if i had to guess. Well if you get time and can anwser my questions i'd be very grateful. Thanks

  • Ok well first of all i've had vista since the 1st week it came out and i can't be happier with it. Never had any problems with it,and it runs fine. The only question i have is what is gonna be the minimum and recommended score for windows "vienna"/7.  Cause i bought a new computer back in may and it was around $500. Of course the score started out at 3.0 I've upgraded it alot since then and here are my scores.

    Processor- Pentium D 920    4.7

    Memory- 2 gigs DDR24200     5.3

    Video- Geforce 7300gt       4.5

                               4.3

    And my harddrive is a       5.6

    I plan on getting the last piece of the puzzle which is a Radeon 2600xt which should bring my video scores in the mid-high 5's from the post's i've read. So that will leave my score at a 4.7 So will windows vienna/7  Require a 4,and recommend a 5,6,or 7. Cause i suppose after SP1 gets released the score will go up past 5.9's If anyone has any info on vienna/7 and what the minimum system requirements would be,that would be great,so whether i know if i wasted money upgrading my computer.

  • markwo
    1 Posts

    Hi Nick

    I am looking to buy a new computer and want one that will perform well with Vista.  I thought I was on the right track with your page.  I got to the bit that told me to look at the 'base score levels table on page 4'.  But I can't find page 4 (or the base score levels table).  Please tell me where I am going wrong.

    Thanks

    Mark

  • VertoX7
    1 Posts

    --Posted by Fruitonice

    --I have just installed a new copy of Vista and tried looking at my index but it says it has not yet been rated, there is a button saying Rate this Computer but when clicked I get an error message saying "Windows was unable to calculate the WEI because the user cancelled the assesment"

    I figured out an alternative way of refreshing it. Run command prompt as administrator and type "winsat formal" without the quotes and that will run and refresh your score. You still will not be able to click the button and have it automatically refresh it but that will update your scores. I'm still trying to figure out a permanent fix

  • Well u guys might find this strange i had an ati 9600xt with Aero preformance of 5.9 and gaming of 3.9 i upgraded to a hd2600xt and my gaming is now 5.5 but aero is at a horrible 2.9 i mean aero is still enabled and runs much faster is it a bug with vista or is the drivers to blame cuz ati refrence driver do not work and i had to d/l the drivers from visiontek.

  • I got an error "windows was unable to calculate WIE becuase the user cancelled the assesment.

    tried everywhere but cant find the answer. Please Help

    If someone have a link to the answer please post it..

    THANKS A LOT

  • austx1
    1 Posts

    PERFECTION!  This is number 2?  Where is the 6.0+? lol

    Processor: 5.9

    Memory(RAM): 5.9

    Graphics: 5.9

    Gaming graphics: 5.9

    Primary hard disk: 5.9

    Equipment (just assembled and tested this week)

    Intel Core 2 Extreme QX6850 3.0GHz

    ASUS P5K3 Deluxe WiFi/AP

    2GB Corsair DDR3 1333MHz

    768MB MSI 8800ULTRA Video Card

    WD Raptor WD1500ADFD 150GB hard drive

  • ZomB
    1 Posts

    Got WEI of 5.6

    Processor: 5.7

    RAM: 5.9

    Graphics: 5.9

    Gaming and 3D: 5.9

    Hard Drive: 5.6

    specs

    Core2Duo E6850

    Corsair 2GB DDR3

    Leadtek Geforce 8800 Ultra

    Asus P5K3 Deluxe WiFi

    everything at stock speeds,

    I wonder if I defrag if its gonna help my score go up a bit

  • Nick White
    1204 Posts

    Hey jcbingel:  your Windows Experience Index (WEI) score will be the score of your lowest-scoring component, so it sounds like your processor is the "weakest" link in your system.  Which is not to denigrate your system by any means -- anything over 5.0 is GREAT!

    By the way, the score only reaches a max of 5.9, and I've only seen one single system rank that highly.  Your system is smoking!

  • I like the post, I upgraded my PC a few months before vista, went from an athlon 2500xp to a dual opteron home server and 1 video card, a geforce something or other ddr3 256 ram.   I'm curious, my base scare of 5.1 (processors ran at that), my card was a 5.9,I assume because windows doesn't go to 6, but everything else, hard drives (perp recording, raid 0 setup) 5.6.  

    I'm trying to figure out how to get everything but the processors to 5.9...

  • Wow cyrixboy - you have a intense PC! 5.6 is a awesome Windows Experience Index! The highest PC I have is a 5.1!

    - Brandon

  • Brilliant article, explains the whole index rating thing very well. I personally think it's a great idea, as there's a lot of people with scary hardware out there that simply isn't utilised properly as most games/programs are made to run backwards compatible with older systems. I think microsoft are trying to get X-Box 360 class games running on desktop PCs - Check out the Direct-X 10 version of Lost Planet for some scary eye candy! I didn't realise the score only goes up to 5.9 at the moment though! I've just upgraded my computer to a Core 2 Duo E6700, 2GB PC6400 CL4, Geforce 8800GTX OC, 2 x 75GB WD Raptor in RAID 0 (for boot volume). I'm not overclocking anything yet because, frankly, it doesn't need it (yet). I'm running Vista x64 and my score is 5.6. (It cost me both my arms and legs and I don't intend on upgrading anything for a long time yet!!!). It seems my processor is the only thing holding back my score at the moment.. I wonder if the CPU benchmark is properly multi-threaded... if it is, then I guess I'll be getting a quad core next... Keep up the good work though guys :)

  • Sid
    4 Posts

    Well, I visited Intel website. I dont think that they are going to release WDDM drivers for my graphics accelerator. So Windows Aero is out of question. On a personal note, can anyone tell me about WindowBlinds skins resembling aero and where can I find them...

  • Nick White
    1204 Posts

    Hey Sid:  I'd check out the Intel support page for information on which of their mobile graphics platforms currently support Windows Vista -- it looks like yours is not yet on the list:  http://support.intel.com/support/graphics/sb/CS-023606.htm#1.

    However, you might make sure by running Windows Update and looking for Optional or Recommended downloads, as this may have changed since their FAQ was published (or, you may find a generic driver released by MS in the imterim).

    Hope this helps.

  • Sid
    4 Posts

    And yes.. I am using Intel 915GM/GMS 910GML Graphics.. where can I get a WDDM driver for that?

  • Sid
    4 Posts

    Lolz... no... 55000 in my currency, which is aprox. $1500. Can u suggest some WindowBlinds skin that resembles Aero.. You know.. Ive got a couple of those skins, but they arent working correctly under Vista, cuz maybe theyre meant for XP users only..

  • Sid, Microsoft cannot give you any sort of tweak to enable Aero as it would be unwise to do any sort of "hack" to enable Aero because there is a change your system performance would be compromised. There is a reason why Aero is not enabled... with a rating of 1.9 and gaming and 3D of 1.0 - its apparent that the graphics card in your laptop is not capable of running Aero at the performance needed.

    Also: you spent $55,000 on your laptop?

  • Sid
    4 Posts

    I have recently bought a HP laptop, and I am using a Mobile Intel(R) 915GM/GMS, 910GML Express Chipset Family which gives the following ratings:

    Processor: 3.5

    RAM: 4.1

    Graphics: 1.9

    Gaming and 3D: 1.0

    Hard Drive: 4.5

    I dont want to spend anymore on hardware upgrade. Please suggest any registry tweaks or some way to activate Aero on my machine, so that I feel that my 55000 bucks didnt go for waste... Plz plz plz plz help me!!!

  • Sorry I just noticed someone with same problem and post with options thanks

  • I have just installed a new copy of Vista and tried looking at my index but it says it has not yet been rated, there is a button saying Rate this Computer but when clicked I get an error message saying "Windows was unable to calculate the WEI because the user cancelled the assesment"

    I have looked for some help on the net but no luck any one have any ideas.

    Thanks

  • Nick White
    1204 Posts

    Hey xinhorf:  take a look at page 19 of the Windows Vista Product Guide and you'll see that certain games are optional for the Business and Enterprise SKUs:  http://download.microsoft.com/download/c/9/8/c988dce4-1971-4ad4-a1ef-df99e596a4cc/WVPG%20RTM.xps.

  • xinhorf
    1 Posts

    Why the windows Vista Bussiness edition has games not included in premium edition???

  • lmadzia
    1 Posts

    I WAS TOLD TO GO TO THIS WEBSIGHT TO GET THE ORDER NUMBER I NEEDED TO RECIEVE MY FREE WINDOWS VISTA UPGRADE !

    I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHERE TO START LOOKING , A PHONE NUMBER WOULD BE A START. THIS IS A NIGHTMARE, THAN AGAIN THIS IS WHAT I GET FOR

    JUMPING INTO A FREE OFFER !

  • i use my laptop primarily for photo editing. but on vista i can't see my photos in normal quality (they appear pixelated), apparently because my score is too low (3.1). please explain why my new computer running vista supposedly can't do what my 6-year old laptop running XP can do, and advice me on how to override this ridiculous "feature".

  • We have done a number of tests on various bits of equipment we currently deploy. All were tested using Vista Business/Enterprise (x86).

    The results are available at http://itadmin.creative.auckland.ac.nz/FAQ/Software/Microsoft/VISTA/vista-WEI-20070405.html

    In spite of the spread of the scores -all machines are very usable running Vista -the application experience (excluding games) is actually fairly consistent (Office 2007/2003, drawing/design image processing).

  • cyph3r
    1 Posts

    Home Built PC with Vista Ultimate

    Processor Intel(R) 2 X Xeon 5160 3 ghz

    Memory (RAM) 4.00 GB FBDimm 667 (vista only use 3Gb), with 2 x 1Gb scored 4,7 so I upg to 4 x 1Gb doubling both size and speed (quad channel), now scores 5,9

    M/B Tyan Tempest 5000XT

    Graphics NVIDIA GeForce Go 8800 GTX

    Primary hard disk 4 x 250 SATA Raid IME using sas controller

    Secondary 2 X Seagate 145 Gb SAS 15k rpm

    This configuration scored 5,9 in all sections

  • Im confused with the base score.. my friend has 2.0GB Ram and he have 5.0+ of Ram score and i have 1.5GB of ram and i having a rating of 2.5 only.. i have Primary Harddisk of 73GB and having 34GB free space..

    (another problem is, i having 2 partition of 73GB each.. i want to combine both together so that i can solve diskspace problems).

    Does anyone can help??

    Thankz.

  • Dell XPS M1710

    Component Details Subscore Base score 4.7

    Processor Intel(R) Core(TM)2 CPU T7600 @ 2.33GHz 5.2

    Memory (RAM) 2.00 GB    4.7

    Graphics NVIDIA GeForce Go 7900 GS  5.9

    Gaming graphics 521 MB Total available graphics memory   5.7

    Primary hard disk 65GB Fee (81GB Total)   5.0

    Windows Vista (TM) Home Premium

    New from Dell ...Sam

  • Dell XPS M1710 Component Details Subscore Base score

    Processor Intel(R) Core(TM)2 CPU T7600 @ 2.33GHz 5.2 4.7

    Memory (RAM) 2.00 GB 4.7

    Graphics NVIDIA GeForce Go 7900 GS 5.9

    Gaming graphics 521 MB Total available graphics memory 5.7

    Primary hard disk 65GB Fee (81GB Total) 5.0

    Windows Vista (TM) Home Premium

    ...Sam

  • Can anyone point me in the right direction.  My scores are:

    Processor 4.1 (AMD Athlon 64 3200+)

    Memory 2.4 (2GB)

    Graphics 5.9 (RADEON X850 XT Platinum)

    Gaming Graphics 4.9

    Primary Hard Disk 5.3

    I am not sure why the memory score is so low.  Audio is extremely choppy.  My guess is I need new sound card drivers, but I am wondering if my memory score is also part of the problem.

  • Nick White
    1204 Posts

    Hey maxd:  the issue could be caused by any number of actions on your part or conflicts within the system -- I'd suggest you post your question to one of our public newsgroups to see if an expert there can help.

  • maxd
    1 Posts

    I've looked all over the web, seems like i'm the only one having this problem with rate my computer   experience index.

    My system:

    Dell xps m1710

    windows vista ultimate oem.

    I'm trying to run : Rate my computer.

    I get this error: windows was unable to calculate the windows experience index because the user has canceled the assessment.

    Why is this?

    Thank you for your time

  • blueck
    1 Posts

    Processor Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.00GHz 4.2

    Memory (RAM) 2.00 GB 4.4

    Graphics NVIDIA GeForce 7800 GS 5.9

    Gaming graphics 622 MB Total available graphics memory 5.6

    Primary hard disk 17GB Free (29GB Total) 5.2

  • Great blog, I'm very happy to see this, it's nice to see how other people are enjoying it. I'm a huge fan of Vista, running home premium on both of my machines, and I'm a huge gamer, happy to say the drivers are finally starting to get where I want them, although OpenGL based games still see a 30% decrease in overall FPS.

    I just bought a HP Media Center PC m7750n

    My system:

    AMD64 X2 2.6ghz 5000+

    2GB PC2 4200 DDR2 \ 2000mhz FSB

    Serial ATA 400GB

    Nvidia 6150LE Onboard (Disabled)

    Nvidia 7600GT

    ** Too much to list**

    Scores: Base Score 5.2

    Processor 5.2

    Ram 5.9

    Graphics Desktop/Aero 5.9

    Graphics Gaming 5.4

    HDD 5.7

    My other gaming system

    AMD64 Clawhammer 3700+ 2.4GHZ S754

    1.5GB PC3200

    80GB/160GB = 240GB

    BFG GeForce 7800GS OC (AGP)400/1250

    Scores: Base Score 4.2

    Processor 4.2

    Ram 4.2

    Graphics Desktop/Aero 5.9

    Graphics Gaming 5.2

    HDD 5.2

    I researched plenty of benchmarks, and the 7600GT is plenty to run any DX9 game, I simply don't want to spend money on a DX9 card, not when this one is more than enough, I'm waiting to get a high end DX10 card, maybe by summer. Anyways, at $99, ya can't go wrong, I run Quake 4 maxed out on everything and it never falls below 60fps, except Oblivion, which prefers ATI cards anyways. Though I admit, if I didn't have this system supporting the card, I would need at least a Nvidia 7900, not sure of ATI, my last card was a X800 Pro, outstanding card btw.

    So there it is, don't splurge on DX9, wait!!!

    Also, another note for video cards. If your card does not support Shader Model 3.0, it will not score higher than 4.9. My Radeon X800 Pro scored only a 4.9, but if it supported SM3 it would have scored 5.2-5.4. For those that don't know, SM3 is new-age shader technology. Rather than try to explain, here's a good example.

    Xbox = Shader Model 2.0, Xbox360 = 3.0. A good system with a SM3 high end card will look as good as a high end console, except perhaps the resolution, which requires hardcore power, though, games that support multi-threading, will perform as good on PC as next-gen consoles.

  • Great blog, just what I was searching for! I've got a Dell Precision 670, check out these specs: 2x (Dual CPU) Intel Xeon Dual-Core 2.6Ghz, 3GB Ram, 150GB SCSI 15k rpm running 64-Bit Ultimate Vista, here are my scores:

    Processor: 5.3, Memory: 4.5, Graphics: 5.9, Gaming Graphics: 4.6, Primary Hard Disk: 5.9, overal score 4.5 (determined by memory)

    I wonder how I can increase my memory speed!

  • Nick White
    1204 Posts

    Hey everyone:  After conferring with one of my more technical colleagues, I thought I'd mention one point about power requirements on newer graphics cards.  Namely, many new cards on the market require supplied power of 350W or greater, and most new PCs only come with 300W supplies.

    The upshot is that you have to read the requirements on newer graphics cards *very* carefully to ensure you're buying one compatible with your system.  

    Please take note.

  • hey guys i have a toshiba A100 notebook here are the general specs:

    T5500 1.66GHz     4.7score

    2GB RAM 533mhz    4.5score

    GeForce Go7600 128MB    (WinAero 3.1;  Gaming Graphics 3.8score )

    200GB 5200RPM HDD       4.3score

    well i was hoping someone could comment on my scores please adn why is my desktop performance for windows aero only 3.1, i thought my GPU was close to topnotch and its not even close to a score of 4.0 im just so confused...  thanks in advance guys :)

  • Well, I just built a rig and I have 5.6; I'll be using it mostly for notepad and IE.

  • Its simple the whole idea behind the windows index experience is to get us to by more hardware! I mean who is gonna be satisfied with a low score and the only way to get a better score is to buy more hardware! No wonder the hardware vendors are so happy with MS.

  • HI,

    I have a Sony VAIO vgc-ra830 g and with the rc1 of vista, my system had a 4.2 Windows Experience Index Rating. Now, it has gone down to a 2.4 with absolutely no system changes. My specs are run from 2.4 for hard disk to all the rest being 5.1 to 5.9. My hard disk is a 7,200 rpm RAID 0 320 gig hard drive. Check disk and defrag don't help. Any ideas?

    Joie

  • Thanks for the update houru.  Glad to hear that you are having better luck than me with your card.  Can you tell me what ATI driver version you are running?  I'm running ATI's 8.333.0.0 dated 1/18/2007.  

    Everything that I have read about the experience numbers, I should have numbers similar to you.

  • houru
    1 Posts

    I am also running an ATI Radeon 9550 256 mb card, and i scored in graphinc 3.6 and in gaming graphics 3.3 (my lowest score). All the games I've played so far ran just fine

  • I agree with others, great explaination.  I installed Ultimate after attending the Atlanta launch event.  Vista is so much better in person.  

    My issue is that I am running a Raideon 9550 256 mb card.  It has been fine to run BF2, Tomb Raider Legend, and Ghost Recon Advanced Warfighter, but according to Windows experience it rates only a 1, thus killing my overall score.  I did update with the lastest driver dated 01/30/2007.  

    What am I missing here?  Suggestion?

  • HKG
    1 Posts

    I am running x64 ultimate and have 3gb DDR400 ram but I only get an index score of 4.0

    When I first installed I had a 4.1, then after a couple driver installations I was prompted to recalculate and I got 4.0

    The system does recognize I have 3gbs but why the low score?  I have the ram running in dual memory mode, all my other scores seem on par with others of similar specs.

    Any insight??

  • Davids
    2 Posts

    DParks256

    If you haven't found a solution, I found a helpful soul on a Windows forum.  I presume you have Tweak installed:

    http://www.neowin.net/forum/index.php?showtopic=537418

  • I Had a Ati all in wonder 9800pro and i got a video index base score of 4.9 I believe I know that I was running vista(32 bit and 64bit) in areo with no problem. I was using a AMD 64 3200+ so my cpu was 4.0 and my memory was 4.0 as well (2 gig of ddr400) but since this chip is based on the 754 socket there is a limitation of the memeory controller built into these processors so my memory was 4.0 as well. I upgraded my cpu and motherboard to x2 4200+ now my score is 5.0 and my memory same (ddr400 is 5.1) I am running memory in dual channel now. I also upgrade my video to ati x1950pro PCI -e x16 now my video is 5.9 with a gaming experience of 5.8. hope this helps all.

  • First I would like to thank Microsoft, for a great product, I have been running Vista Ultimate since August on my 3year old Dell Inspiron8600 WIE score 3.0.  I am in the process of shopping for a new computer.  I do not find major vendors (such as Dell, HP, Toshiba) providing the Windows Experience Index and/or component Subscores.  There are so many choices.  I would like to end up with at least a WEI score of 5.2.

    I use my computer for normal office stuff and multimedia managing photos, creating and watching video.

    • Intel® Core™ 2 Duo T7400 (2.16GHz, 4MB L2 Cache, 667 MHz FSB)

    •     2GB DDR2 SDRAM at 667MHZ, 2 DIMM

    •     100GB 7200rpm SATA Hard Drive  (I have external drives)

    •     256MB NVIDIATM  GeForceTM  Go 7900 GS Graphics Card

    Will all of the above be above 5.2?

    Thanks …Sam

  • I have the same error as "Davids" and am not able to update or aquire a score.  I have been working on this for a couple of days now, and would appreciate any input, thanks! (the view from his screenshot is identical to mine)

    Thanks, Dave

  • Davids
    2 Posts

    For the last few days, I've been unable to see anything about the index scores I received whern first installing Vista.  Indeed, I am no longer able to see a link to re-rate my PC.

    This is a link to what it looks like:

    http://img19.imageshack.us/my.php?image=weixt7.jpg

    Any idea how I can refresh this view?

    Thanks

  • The real horror about DJPias post is it suggests a 7300GS isn't sufficient to run Aero Glass. Surely that must ge wrong?

  • Swampie
    1 Posts

    DJPias - the reason is the 6600GS is a better graphics card than the 7300GS.  The first digit describes the generation of the product - ie. the 7xxx is a newer technology than the 6xxx, however the 2nd digit describes where in that generation the card/chip sits.  The 66xx is likely to be better than a 73xx because the x3xx indicates it's an entry level chip, whereas the x6xx indicates it's a higher spec chip (in the range).

    Don't just assume the newer the generation/technology, the better the card.

  • DJPias
    1 Posts

    Great blog but I have a question. Recently I have changed my "old" nVidia GeForce 6600GS with a 7300GS card. My PC had a Windows Experience Index of 3.8 with the first one but now with the new card it has an index of 2.2!!! What's wrong? The drivers are the same in both cases...

  • wdetmer
    1 Posts

    While 2 gig. of ram is recommended there is no mention of the maximum addressable by Vista.  Is this 4 gig. or is it possibly more?  I am looking at a dual 64 bit processor box with gig. ram configuration and want to know if Vista will utilize.  If so, which version and when will it be available?

  • kikoman
    1 Posts

    Why not make a Windows Experience Index tool available for XP? That way, consumers who are planning to buy a new PC can new which specs they need.

  • thenay
    2 Posts

    Great article, and I agree with gfincher, some of the text is whited out, and I tried Firefox and IE7

  • This is very interesting.

    and would all point to me needing a bigger graphics card, as I can't seem to get the graphics and gaming index higher than 1.0!

    It's running DirectX 9 and I changed the driver to WDDM in the device manager.

    the graphics card I have is an ATI Radeon 9800 Pro, which I believe has 128MB RAM, which I thought was adequade to run Vista. I maybe wrong on this.

  • Interesting post, but the information in the tables is virtually unreadable because of the color of the type - even on FireFox!  Change the colors??