Windows Live Essentials 2011 available for download now

When will the Facebook chat become available in Canada? I though this would've been implemented in the final release

Firstly, I'll say that this is probably the best release of Windows Live Essentials to date but just in case you didn't get the message over on twitter - you guys made this final release of Messenger WITHOUT adding the Facebook like feature to social updates?! Seriously??! Did you just forget that people who use Facebook perhaps do this a lot?????

First of all, congrats to the Final Release!

but its hard to get the download if you stay in Germany. I have to change my browser Language. Why Microsoft can not publish the Website around the World at the same Time?

Max

Congratulations on your release today!!  The attention to detail is very apparent in both client apps and backend services...really great work.  There isn't one element that I don't utilize today in some fashion.   I look forward to what the year ahead brings.

What's the URL for the offline installer (wlsetup-all.exe)?

Great Software!

But what I don't like about Windows Live Mail is the fact, that it doesn't merge the contacts of Windows Live with them of Facebook, like the online-version Hotmail does. Are there any plans for introducing this feature in a futher release oder update?

Too bad the new WLM is usless. :(

No more nicknames in WLM ?

Guys, did you ask actual WLM users before making such a decision ? I know a LOT of people who will be really disappointed after upgrading...

I suppose it was inevitable that I would continue to be plagued by one of the 5% of bugs that have not been addressed: gcoupe.blogspot.com/.../windows-live-essentials-2011.html

Sigh.

cool stuff! always cool stuff!

it keeps signing me out! i hate it! :@

I agree with Geoff Coupe, this is a very serious bug (gcoupe.blogspot.com/.../windows-live-essentials-2011.html) and should have been fixed already.

I won't install WLPG until this is changed!

I just installed your new software and am rather disappointed.

Windows Live Mesh

 - the old live sync didn't hog resources

 - the old lives sync didn't take several lifetimes to process a directory with a lot of files in it

 - i can't see which files are being transferred (I could in the old live sync).

 - the lists of files i'm "waiting for" include files on the same computer that is doing the waiting

 - another list of files i'm "waiting for" doesn't even load it just freezes at "100% complete"

 - one computer says live mesh isn't running on the other even though its been running for hours

 - both my computers are now waiting to receive files from each other... well send them already! What is the software doing?? its 20 text files! is that too hard?

 - Maybe you should talk to the Foldershare developers to get some ideas on how to start over?

Windows Live Photo Gallery

 - it apparently messes up GPS coordinates?? This isn't some bug. You guys designed it to guess at the GPS and store that guess in the image. What if the user doesn't want that? Do you guys just decide features by thinking "Oooh wouldn't it be cool if it did this?"

You can add nicknames in WLM people. Right click on a contact and go to add nickname. I don't see any issues with this really. I like the update

Thanks from Italy! But Windows Live Mail has a lot of bugs! Where is the CTRL-H function? Quoted text in newsgroups? Conversations ordering by date of first post in a thread?

After all those people on the forums, and everywhere asked for you to bring nicknames back and not full names, you still didn't bring them back?

what the hell MICROSOFT?

Well back to older releases! Thanks again.

MESSENGER SIGN IN IS STILL BROKEN

If I open messenger is automatically signs me in.

I sign out and tell it not to remember my password and to forget me and close it.

When I reopen messenger is still automatically sign me in.

Multiple people use this computer and I can’t have massager signing into my account automatically!!!

Note: I have Windows Live Mesh Running and it auto signs in, but its supposed to otherwise I wouldn’t be able to stay in sync.

Let me say it simply : I love the new WLE.

That said, my greatest fear has become truth : "Windows Live Mesh 2011 is replacing Windows Live Sync, and new users can’t download Sync anymore. In early 2011, this website will be shut down and your files will stop syncing. Learn more about Windows Live Mesh 2011 and how to upgrade."

Now, does it mean in 3 months I'll lose the possibility to sync files with any Windows XP computer in the world (again, mine is Win7, but the vast majority of the world IS and WILL remain for a while on XP). I guess I will now need to find a new sync program; it really hurts because:

- Sync had been one of the greatests pieces of soft in the past decade.

- the new Mesh looks even more promising and would love to use it, but I'm not ready to lose the ability to sync to my company's work PC and my family and friends that still run WinXP (I don't have the money to make everyone in this world install Win7).

PS: People say WinVista and Win7 aren't getting into the market as fast as XP did, yet Win7 sales are impressive. I wonder why everyone pretends not to see the obvious reason for that paradox. Starting in Vista it became really difficult to get a pirate Windows working well, Win7 has made it even worse. You can't reach 99% of the world computer market with a product priced at several hundred dollars, and if you keep on pushing you will only lose more market share, specially if you break down interoperability of your software (not saying your new software should be compatible with XP, just that it should be able to "communicate" with PCs running XP, just as you can chat with messenger with them).

And here goes my only perpetual gripe with WLM : spell checking.

- Why? Why? Why is it so difficult to add a small drop list on the ribbon to chose your damn spelling language? (or to the right clic menu like on most internet browsers plugins)

Don't you understand that there are millions of people in the world regularly writing in several languages with the same keyboard layout? Myself I'm Spanish, and outside your damn US country  under 30 years old people speaks and communicates at least in both English and their mother tongue. I understand this is a "free" (after paying for Win7)  product so I'm not asking for anything "advanced" such as Office auto-detection, but if you  :

- get the nice software

- get the spell dics available

- allow the user to change the spelling language through the options menu

Why on EARTH not adding a simple way of switching among the installed ones when typing a message???

Why do I have to rely on hotmail website to type my messages even when at home on my Win7-WLE computer simply to be able to change my spell-checking language in a couple of clics ?!??!?

Why ?!?!?!??! Just tell me and if you have any good reason for it I'll shut up for once. It just goes beyond me...

Congrats on the release!  But what happened the the ability to write Ink messages in Messenger?

@Chris Jones:

You wrote "we’ve addressed 95% of all bugs reported by beta users". That clearly depends on your definition of 'bug' and what you mean by 'reported'. I've been using the beta of WLMail since its public release, and I never found a way to 'report' any of the bugs I found. If you only allow a few hand-picked trusties to report bugs, you won't find the ones experienced by ordinary users in everyday situations. The result is just as mediocre as I expected it to be, given the conditions it was tested under.

@danielgr

If WLM means WLMail (it is a bit ambiguous in this context), then have a look at this post:

windowslivehelp.com/thread.aspx

One simple keyboard shortcut to switch spell-checking language in WLMail.

@Noel Burguess

Thanks for taking the time to answer something no-one in Microsoft dares to.

I'm pretty aware of that capability from WLMail ( I live in Japan so I need to change keyboard layout to be able to write in Japanese), but for most people that's completely useless.

People like auroravi or me write in many languages, but only have 1 keyboard and as such do not play with keyboard layouts because they are always different for main languages around the world (they are for Spanish, French, German, Japanese, and Chinese for sure). So if you change the language as WLM people ask you to do, you simple stop knowing where are your keys to begin with.

I can only see one case in which that feature makes sense, which is assuming you have different people willing to write in their own mother tongue whose keyboard layout they know by heart in the same computer. That IS a very limited use.

I don't need an English keyboard to type this text (haven't one), et je n'ai pas plus besoin d'un clavier Français pour taper celui ci, ni de un maldito teclado Español para escribir éste, 日本語のでも必要ないですよ！

What people do is keep their keyboard layout, yet write on different languages, and given how easy it would be to give a "default spelling language" + "drop list with only the installed ones" when typing. Google does it in gmail website (not even a PC-app !!!), Firefox does it, linux based e-mail clients do it, IE7pro plugin for IExplorer does it, why is a full-blow PC app like WLM unable to add that SIMPLE but extremely useful feature???

@danielgr

You misunderstood my post. I clearly wrote "Unless you're familiar with the keyboard layout for the other languages, stick to the one you know." In other words, when you install the input language in the OS, specify the same keyboard layout that you usually use. The default in the 'Add language' dialogue is to select a keyboard appropriate to the language.   D o n ' t   d o   t h a t !  Then all that switching input language does is to inform apps of the language you're writing in - which is the object of the exercise as far as WLMail is concerned.

@Noel Burguess

THANK YOU SO MUCH!!!!!!!

It works !!!

Really, why did it took so much for someone to shut my mouth (I've been complaining about this since WLM1 in XP ...)

Now, it begs to ask:

- "why isn't this stuff better documented?"

Back in the old days the only reason one would add another language was to change the keyboard layout (or allow different persons familiarized with different keyboards to use the computer). I never thought it was possible to "add a language while keeping the keyboard layout".

- Was that possible in WinXP?

- Is there any reason why one would want to do that except for using WLM spell-checking?

PS: Still think it would be better to get a dropbox; now if I have someone wantint to use my computer with his own layout we have to go swtich the Windows settings... (though I understand those are minority cases, why leave them out of the game when there are other easy ways to go ...?)

Like James said, you can add Nicknames in WLM.

Right Click on a contact, click "Edit Contact", go down to Contact, and you will see the field for Nickname under the Middle Name field.

windows mail is still awful. you've never fixed bugs that were reported years ago by beta testers, and now there aren't any real beta testers. you never listened to us and continue to do so.

this release sucks as bad as the last 3.

This is great news!

I'm leaving beta right now then ;)

Thank you so much!

Well, as James Manes said, I find no problem in adding a nickname either... Just right click the contact and select the option, which is also available while editing the contact information in Windows Live Mail 2011.

From the sound of this it looks like the issue with display names still isn't fixed... If this is the case it looks like you just lost a user of WLE Microsoft... (I only used it for Messenger mainly anyway.  Movie Maker is a joke now, and I have Outlook for mail.  I don't blog, and since I'm the only user on my machine there's no need for Family Safety.)

Seriously, was it really so hard to let us have display names?  Blizzard realized it was a bad idea, why not Microsoft? (I'd even settle for just having my XBL Gamertag be my display name, but having to edit my name globally just for a bit of privacy in Messenger is seriously not okay.)

And just to add, this is MY OWN NAME, not other's names (although having to add nicknames for each and every one of my contacts is still going to be a huge pain... I have half a mind to go back to the old WLM and block the update from ever installing.  If support is dropped, I'll just switch clients.)

This is a good polished release but let me honestly state my displeasure about certain features I don't like and haven't been addressed in any of Windows Live releases:

- Constant UI changes. Can we please have releases with Ui that doesn't change every single version yet adds more features?

- Removing features. Because of MS constant fiddling with the UI, users have to trade old features for new ones.

- Non-customizable ribbon. Why? Office 2010 ribbon is customizable now.

- Doesn't even let you choose which drive to install. Also, why I can I not upgrade select Wave 3 components? That is, use Photo Gallery from Wave 3 but Messenger from Wave 4. Most MS apps except Windows Live can coexist with older versions.

- Movie Maker is totally useless as it's still WMV only when the whole world is standardizing on H.264. Please allow fully customizable H.264+AAC export in MP4 like Expression Encoder offers. Since this is now "Designed for Windows 7", why can't Movie Maker use the Media Foundation codecs to encode all supported formats in Media Foundation? This will make all users so happy and satisfied. And please add at least all of the transitions and effects from Vista Movie Maker.

- I have been asking forever to ship a standalone EXE for the Windows Live Contacts which can be started outside of Windows Live Mail or at least as a parameter to wlmail.exe.

- Photo Gallery requires more clicks now to actually start editing an image you opened from Windows Explorer. First open the image, then go to the gallery, then click the image again to actually see the ribbon where editing commands are present.

- Please allow us to choose whether to add Firefox addons too.

- Why is the calendar in Live Mail only sync-able with Live Calendar? Please add calendar publishing and subscribing to online calendars and import/export to iCalendar. Where are "tasks" in the calendar, I can add only events?

- The slide show button from Windows Explorer starts the Windows Photo Viewer, which unlike Windows Live Photo Gallery, does not support viewing slide shows with themes and rich transitions.

- Windows Live Mail does not support HTML source editing, scripted stationery and the ability to disable the splash screen. Windows Mail did.

- All programs have Windows native UI but Family Safety still uses a web browser to do most tasks? Why can't the UI be like a native app but the interaction with the online service transparently done behind the scenes?

I hope my feedback is not falling on deaf ears and gets delivered to the Windows Live teams.

@Bruno and others: Sorry, I should have said "display names" instead...my English is not that good. Anyway, giving a nickname to every contact in everyone's list is quite ridiculous...I went back to WLM 2009, and won't update if this isn't fixed (I can already see MS saying "it's not a bug, it's a feature"...)

We (a rather large commuty of people) have been testing the following wave 4 beta programs :

- Windows Live Mail

- Windows Live Photo Gallery

- Windows Live Movie Maker

- Windows Live Sync (now Mesh)

Now we installed the final bits 2011 and we decided to keep Windows Live Mesh on board.

We also decided NOT TO USE THE FOLLOWING PROGRAMS ANY LONGER:

- Windows Live Mail

- Windows Live Photo Gallery

- Windows Live Movie Maker

Here is why:

During the beta, several participants of our community have filed suggestions for improvement and requests to add very simple basic features that are available in comparable software from your competitors.

We notice that none of them have been taken into account.

We honestly do not understand what you mean when you pretend that you listen to customers.

Considering all I use is Messenger, looks like I'll be going back to 2009 and just using Messenger and nothing else.  More HDD space better served for other purposes.  Plus I'm sick of accidentally closing chat windows by pressing "Esc," thinking I'm pausing a game.

No thanks. I'll stick with what actually has a use. I tried the first beta, and hated it from the get go. When (if) they stop supporting 2009 on win7/Vista, there's always third party apps.

@everyone: my last comment was to Messenger. (All I ever use anyways)

I not happy with this 2011 version. Microsoft did too much of work here which proved to be useless. Why bring changes that people will accept. Going back to 2009 because all I ever loved was the Messenger and this has also turned into a crap.

Hello,

I don't know if you are awere but most portuguese peopple are complaining about the fact that in live messenger 2011 contact list the contact names are not well displayed.

Instead of NAME+SURNAME we all have in the pt-pt version of windows live SURNAME+NAME in our contact list.

Can you please finaly fix this? This has been a constant!

Thank you!

Is there a way to disable the autostart of Live Mesh? I don't want it running when working on battery with my laptop.

fix, windows live messenger problem, it keeps signing me out, f*ck, i hate that

Windows Live Messenger need serious fix soon. Its no way better than 2009 version. UI has been changed completely which is no more useful. Please, don't make it a bloatware.

If you combine IE9 beta and Live Writer be aware that there are some known bugs. blog.jtbworld.com/.../windows-live-writer-2011-beta-and-ie9.html

I love it, WLE 2011

I love the fact that messenger has dropped the concept of display names. I have friends who constantly change their display names, making it impossible to find them. I'm feel sorry to all of those people who don't like their friends names.

@infamous: too late. It's bloatware.

@everyone saying it's signing them out, Check your network connections, and also scan for malware (some strains of malware set their own proxy settings which can muck with things)

Bring. Back. DISPLAY. NAMES.

Seriously, I'd rather NOT display my full name out to my Messenger contacts. This is the only reason I've not upgraded.

Microsoft , Windows Live 2011 Final sürümünü yayımladı.

24 Haziranda sürümün betasını yayımlayan Windowslive ekibi, bu gün Final sürümü ile kullanıcılarını tanıştırdı.

Windows Live Movie Maker, Windows Live Mail , Windows Live Messenger , Windows Live Writer , Windows Live Sync ve Aile Koruma Filtresinin tüm yenilikleri final sürümüyle kullanıcıların hizmetinde.

Göze hitap eden arayüz ve yeni nesil şerit tabanları ile, Windows 7 işletim sistemlerine Jumplists olarak tam uyumluluk entegresinde çalışıyor.

Windows Live Sync ayrıca , Web üzerindeki dosyaları birden fazla PC üzerinden senkronize özelliğinide taşıyor.

Windows Live Essentials 2011 Final sürümleri için aşağıdaki bağlantıları kullanabilirsiniz:

Windows Live Essentials 2011 Final  DOWNLOAD (Offical İnstaller File)

( Download: Windows Live Essentials 2011

Download: Windows Live Essentials 2011 Offline installer .exe.Eng.

Download: Windows Live Essentials 2011 Offline İnstaller .exe.TR

NOT: Windows XP işletim sistemlerinde çalışmamaktadır. Final sürümünde MSN Plus ve MSN Discovery eklenti araçları şu an için uyumlu değildir.

Windows Live Messenger 2011 Çoklu Oturum Açma Yaması için Uyumlu Patch : Download

TURKİSH DEVELOPER - News Reporter

There is a bug with Mail and Messenger showing a block box everytime I change folders (Mail) or opening the main window (Messenger).

Those bugs doesn't show in beta release. How can I report this?

I upgraded from the beta release to the final version and now Windows Messenger crashes on sign in and Windows Mesh won't even start with out crashing. If I uninstall and instal the older version it works perfectly. If I then upgrade to the final version it just crashes all over again.

How can the beta version work perfectly yet the final version crash.

Please, I don't want my full name to show up on WL Messenger! Either add an option to just show your first name or go back to the way it was on WLM 2009.

Why don't you listen to your users?

I downloaded the 2011 release and I am really very pleased indeed.  The beta was OK - it was a beta and had a few quirks ...

When I started Windows Live Mesh I was initially worried as the CPU usage ran high  and it seemed to want to re-sync everything.  I left the 2 PCs running overnight and in the morning all was syncd except for 4 files that were 'waiting to receive'.  The new list of files helped here and I just renamed them on one PC and all was well.

It all seems to be hanging together, now issues at all so far.   I am looking forward to a Windows Phone 7 with sync too ...

Great work you people!!

And thanks for simplifying my life!

It's really important to make the user decide their display name. It's because we not only use it to connect with people in real life, but we also use it to make friends with netpals throughout the world. So it's related to the user's privacy of showing their real name to others. Hope Microsoft can face this importance

<Sigh...> Windows Live Movie Maker remains a warmed over iMovie 08 (which even Apple fanboys found wretched). The thousands and thousands who have asked for a MM timeline option have been - predictably but sadly - ignored. The mantra that WLMM developers listen to user feedback borders on the hysterical. In the end, WLMM remains a slideshow maker and the Movie Maker line of elegant and intuitive video editors is now dead.

Well, for what's it worth, I downloaded only the WLM (Windows Live Mail) application, the only application of interest to me, and I might add it is completely confusing.  Couldn't find my way around to use the application whatsoever.  One thing is for certain, Wave 4 of Windows Live Essentials 2011 was not designed for the novice user, rather, those who are computer savvy.  Needless-to-say, I uninstalled WLM and  I'll being installing Mozilla Thunderbird; plan, simple and easy-to-use.  Why can't Microsoft make a 'simple' mail application as the former Windows Mail on Windows Vista for those of use who only want just an email program without all the bells and whistles?  WLM Wave 3 at least I knew how to use the application.  Nothing is ever simple where Microsoft is concerned.

I also wanted to comment on Windows Live Mail. Like kcrannie says, it's become far too complicated. I also miss the elegant simplicity of Vista's Windows Mail, like I miss Vista's Movie Maker 6.0. (Unfortunately I don't like the new updates to Thunderbird, so I'm sticking with the dead simple SeaMonkey Mail.)

More good stuff.  The software that comprises WLE does what I expect it to do for what it is.  Yeah, dumping the use of nicknames seems odd but I still find WLM to be a quality email client for accessing all of my email accounts.   Coming from Outlook, it is nice to have similar set of tools without the corporate overhead.  The geotagging issue I see mentioned seems to plague many image editors, but at least Bing Maps can look up my home address so if I enter that information the image gets mapped correctly, Google Maps still can't find my mailing address so Picasa is not working.

Okay, can't let this one pass.  Yes I really hate that the use of nick names for contacts is no longer available (and confusing since Windows Live Messenger will display the nickname and the field is still listed in contacts) but this post is regarding Windows Live Essentials, and the use of contacts is specific to the mail service in general as nicknames do not work in the web interface either.

I'm gonna try it on my sister's computer first so if it sucks I won't waste 30min uninstalling everything and reinstalling older version. I'm still using Photo Gallery 2008 only because Microsoft was too retarded to let us set a black background on 2009. I wouldn't be suprised none of them though about it for 2011 (-_-)

The slideshow themes in full screen such as Album, Collage, Glass, Spin, Frame, Stack, Travel seem to be have been removed. Now there's only Pan and Zoom, Sepia, Contemporary (new), Black and White. Was randomly removing features on the team's agenda?

Nice! :-)

Where's the best place for developers to find out more about the API? We have a large-scale consumer-facing application that needs this kind of infrastructure. The localization support is very important to us. This all looks very encouraging and congratulations on the release!

This is indeed the most stupid idea decision i ever seen. no nickname in an IM software? r u guys nut? did you guys even ask users before making such stupid decision? i will definitely refuse to use WLM2011, no matter how good other functions are. the guy made such decision is crazy and definitely want WLM2011 fail. such an idiot.

I can definitely relate to the negative remarks on Windows Live Essentials 2011.  Microsoft did not design WLE 2011  based on user's feedback, moreover, WLE 2011 was built on an idea  Microsoft felt would go over well; in the end WLE 2011  has become nothing more than a flop.  The new Windows Live Hotmail is not without it's faults either, hence,  the reason for me closing my WLH account completely.  There are far better web-based email programs (GMX, Burntmail, to name a few), which are not supported by advertisements, as is the case with Microsoft, including far more superior mail clients than WLM.  Not everyone wants all the 'bells' and 'whilstels' that WLE provides.   At the end of the day it's all about how loudly Microsoft can toot their own horn in praise of themselves.

As a lot of people didn't understand this;

The nickname to /yourself/.

Not your full First and last name.

The ability to take your "screen name" similar to your personal message

and edit all you want. Without having to go into some weird screen and change it formally.

I want the ability to change it to how I was able to keep a personal message

and make my name "Van - Happy Birthday *name here*!" etc etc.

Doesn't matter. I just put a blank space in the last name and a username in the first name. Works the same for the privacy of not wanting people to know your last name....

Am I the only one having trouble editing my personal message or its some sort of bug or what??!!

Once i shared a personal message and try to edit it again to fix a typo or whatever I cant find any of the text I wrote and I have to rewrite the whole thing again :s!!!!

I am so dissapointed that you guys decided to remove display names , i refuse to use WLM 2011 , Did you guys even take into account the 1000's of messages of feedback saying " Bring back display names" ???

I agree with you jakeg, It's very dissapointing that they removed that feature, I would really like to see the display name feature back

Desperately looking for importing MP3 with JPG (to bake video for youtube)  in movie maker!!!! I am an upgrade case from XP SP2 (old laptop) to 7 64bits (new laptop). The new version, while collaborating with so many services, lacking the coolest feature of movie maker! (BTW my camera software suite is also providing more or less all the features capturing importing/exporting to cam/exporting to youtube services...BUT) importing mp3 and jpg to create song's video for youtube was something i used to have movie maker!!!!

Unfortunately, once again i would have to rely on the raw command line tool ffmpeg (Just one image for the entire video to type it explicitly and humanly possible!!! ). For those who are still wondering "how", can use the following command (obviously after downloading the free command line ffmpeg tool):

cmd> "path\to\ffmpeg.exe" -loop_input -t _number of seconds in mp3 track_ -i "path\to\picture\name.extension" -i "path\to\audio\name.mp3" -y -f flv -r 1 "output_path\to\video\name.flv"

Keep double quotes intact anyway (handy when the either of the file or folder name in path contains space or special character).

to wit:

cmd> "c:\iinetpub\encoders\ffmpeg.exe" -loop_input -t 420 -i "d:\clumsy pictures\my guitar" -i "d:\my vocals\metallica_fade_to_black[cover].mp3" -y -f flv -r 1 "d:\temp\_Fade to black_<Cover>.flv"

Arrrrrrrghhhhh! Movie maker guys .... we deserve much better !

PS: Btw it appears to me that there is some legal issue with mp3+jpg encoding (As Muziic encoder also dropped its encoder for mp3 in its free latest release!!)... but that’s what I am telling myself ! MS guys please try to shed some light on the dropped features/ functionalities as well, for knowledge and curing_customers'_curiosity sake! We shall be obliged and shall send you bundle of gratitude. (so many “shalls”… what else a software engineer wants! huh!)

~ M4Metallica, Microsoft and nothing else matters.... \m/ \m/

The team should add back hand-writing in Messenger, this feature is extremely important when people want to express their ideas using graphs. I don't know why the development team removed this feature. For the removal of nickname, I am fine with that, but there are so many people complaining that, so the team should also consider add back the nickname feature in next update. I only use Messenger and haven't tried the other programs, so I don't have comments on programs other than Messenger.

Instead of hardcoding the method of displaying real names (it's "FirstName LastName" in most languages and "LastNameFirstName" in some Asian languages), please make a new setting in our Windows Live ID profiles which let us set the proper way of displaying our First Names and Last Names.

First of all, thank you all hard-working developers for the new Windows Live Essentials, I love it.

Now, the new Windows Live Device website replaced Live Desktop, but can someone please show me how to add documents to my SkyDrive folder through the website so that it will be synchronized with other computers, just like the old Windows Live Mesh does?

Not to pile on but I would like to note that you remote assistance feature in messanger is an abomination!!!!!!! I've tried to connect to A DOZEN computer to provide various tech support. Utter and complete failure. Your windows live mail program should come with a tutorial is so backa**ward, I don't have a problem figuring it out...its everyother novice level computer user who is stuck...Is there any reason why windows live mail doesn't have any of hotmail's newer features???

One more thing, how come the new version of Windows Live Mail still does not take HTML formatted signature?

Hello, Can any body tell me the URL for the offline installer (wlsetup-all.exe)?

@Javier g.live.com/.../wlsetup-all.exe

@GraphiteCube Oh man, I didn't even notice hand writing is gone. That's bad. :(

In the compact mode of messenger, when we click the region to change the status message, it clears the previous message! The expected and legacy behavior is the old message stays and its text is selected on user click, so the user have both options: to overwrite and to amend the old message. Now, we can't edit/update the old message (have to retype it!). < I reported this on connect during beta but never handled....

Moreover, there is no point to put constraint on one-sided-video feature!!! All the prominent coexisting IM clients support this feature, viz; yahoo, skype, g-talk...

this is seriously a great stuff!! thanks a lot

if I could just have two comments:

- regarding WLM desktop app - any chance to have an option to rename calendar accounts? (I can't seem to right-click the account name)

- regarding hotmail online interface - when showing reading pane on right - would be REALLY GREAT if the "subject" would be on first line with bold bigger font and then sender names on second line in smaller font - just like it is Outlook and WLM

what do you think?

@ greeninx -> Thanks a lot

The link for the spanish version is downloading the BETA installer and not the final release

g.live.com/.../wlsetup-all.exe

@Javier: This page on the Windows Live Solution Center has links to the offline installer for all languages: windowslivehelp.com/solution.aspx

Still issues with Live Mesh.  Can't see what files are waiting to be received, being sent, or processing.  I thought this would be a feature available with the full release.

Needed an amendment to my previous post.  Would like to see a list of files the CLOUD is waiting to receive, as this list apparently appears only when files are deemed missing from regularly synced folders.

I am finding all the WL 2011 products much slower than their predecessor. Is anyone else finding this? Live Mail is much slower and buggy, such as when I create a new email the windows goes all discoloured for a couple of seconds and then loads up. Photo gallery is way slower. I am running Windows 7 with a reasonably good machine and the previous WL was lightning fast. I am thinking of going back to the previous version for as long as I can. Does anyone know where I can get the installer for the previous version?

Why oh why oh why does MS have such massive resources and yet produce software that is so full of bugs, removes features that users want, and is slower than previous versions?

I want MS to be successful, I dislike Google, but their people produce tight, fast, low-bug software. MS, please stop alienating your customers because sooner or later you will not have any left.

for me the most painful stuff on this update is changing your name/nickname (like the previous one where u just click/edit your nickname on WLM then the moment u press enter, its updated and everyone can see it...

now its just a pain, opens up ur browser, logs in to live.com profile then you have to change ur realname(likely) to ur prefered nickname and ofcourse...  some characters are not allowed on this one and another thing... they dont update instantly...

i hate this update just because of that. and omg at adverts getting bigger.... banner

BIGGEST Mistake is not providing support for Win XP! I've to many machines still on XP so I can't make this move! SO Stuck with using the old Mesh!

I hope you manage to document this better than the original Live Mesh, learning how to use that took a lot of trial and error!

Lack of an upgrade path for existing Mesh users and killing downlevel suport is turning this release into a FAIL. I was forced to upgrade to Live 2011 to get access to someone else's shared files, but the process neglected to bring my own Mesh files into the "new" environment, or perhaps it just failed to check that any existed. I recreated my shares, but now clients who I've shared with can't connect without updating as well, and if they're on XP we seem to be out of luck. If there was another way to avoid this mess, no one seems to have had the foresight to communicate it to your installed base.

This forces a change to other cloud storage providers like DropBox or Box.net, and that's enough of a pain that once the change is made, I'm unlikely to come back.

So many customers (wisely) skipped deploying Vista to the desktop, and few widely deploy a new OS before SP1. With Win7 SP1 slipping into 2011, you are guaranteed to lose business users by releasing any product without a build for XP. I'm sure there are reasons it "couldn't be done," but then it shouldn't have happened.

Cheers,

-Eli.

And apparently, this is being pre-loaded on some new PCs now. Buyer beware.

The new release of Windows Live essentials is awesome! Facebook chat, social updates, nicknames, logins, etc. works perfectly. It would be nice to see ribbon though.

@Hemingray:  Quote:  (And apparently, this is being pre-loaded on some new PCs now. Buyer beware.) End Quote.  

I couldn't agree more with you.  Thank God for 'Uninstall'.  I can't believe Microsoft is actually preinstalling this crap on computers.  Where do consumers have a say in this?  Not everyone is into social networking.  Some of us want a choice. . .plain simple email.   Just another attempt at Microsoft to shove a product down the throats of consumers.  As for me,  I'll stick with Mozilla Thunderbird for my email client (plain and simple).

I have an interesting serious problem with Messenger!

Even when the beta was released, I thought that the problem I will tell about, will be resolved in the final release. But it didn't.

When I use Messenger on the Windows Live Applications on Windows 7, there are some contacts that have been invited and accepted the invitation, some of those contacts don't appear on the PC application, neither available nor offline. They just don't exist for the Messenger application.

But on contrast, when I open Web Messenger, all my contacts are there!!!

This is really very annoying and I couldn't find a solution in the settings of Messenger.

Please help me to fix this problem...

@kcrannie: Just wait till they decide that this is a require update for us win7 users.  That oughta be fun.

@Hemingray:  If that is to materialize, my next purchase of a computer will be a Mac.

@kcrannie: Do what I did, build your own.

I went back to msn 2009 until you do something about the display names otherwise I'm sticking forever to my old msn.

Just installed WLM 2010 and cannot find PURGE button to delete all market for deletion messages in my IMAP accounts.

Messenger does not login automatically, the accound and password fields are automatically erased at Windows startup.

The interface shows some UI items and messages in a different language than the one choosen for installation.

Is this really a final revision or it's just a renamed beta refresh??

thuriel I went back to 2009 too, I want the display names back.

I've got it, and I LOVE it!!