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We’re committed to making SkyDrive the best place to get access to your content from anywhere, collaborate on Office docs, and share photos. Mike recently talked about how we’re delivering access to your information seamlessly across devices – starting with Windows Phone.
But a key part to delivering on our goals is having a great web experience that works across platforms. While over 100 million people have tried SkyDrive on the web, we know that there’s a lot more we can do to improve the experience. So starting today, we are launching a new version of the SkyDrive website. We took advantage of modern browsers and HTML5 to make SkyDrive faster, easier to navigate, and more beautiful for viewing photos. The new SkyDrive will be rolling out soon, so check back if you don’t see it right away.
Here is a short video I’ve put together to give you an overview of the new SkyDrive.
Browser modernization has really opened up the window for us to rethink and re-architect how we build our websites. Whether it’s Hotmail or SkyDrive, taking advantage of the advancements in the browser space is critical to ensuring a fast and fluid experience. While we have always focused on improving the performance of our websites, it was clear that we had reached a point where the kinds of performance gains we were hoping for would not come without an assessment of our entire experience from the ground up. SkyDrive has been around since 2007 and was simply not built for the modern web.
We focused our performance investments in the following areas:
SkyDrive has always provided access to your files on many desktop and mobile browsers. However, we’ve received a lot of feedback that it was hard to navigate with several entry points to your files (skydrive.live.com, office.live.com and photos.live.com) and with views that did not make it clear as to what was your stuff and what was shared with you. We’ve taken a fresh approach to solving this problem by providing a single place to see your photos, docs, files shared with you, and files in SkyDrive groups.
One principle in designing the new site is that SkyDrive should be focused on putting your content front and center. The old SkyDrive had a summary of your recent stuff, things shared with you, and activity in your social feed. We heard from many of you that this was confusing and it required too many clicks to get to a document or album. We also looked at the current advertising placement on SkyDrive and decided that this didn’t make sense in this experience. We removed ads to create room for a pane of info about your files, so you can do things like open a doc in Word or Excel on the desktop, directly from SkyDrive.
For many of you, this view will seem familiar because we decided to make the navigational elements and layout consistent with Windows. This has a couple of benefits: 1) Our 1 billion Windows customers will find the site to be familiar and easy to use, and 2) SkyDrive now fills the page, which really showcases your content using as much of the screen as you allow. This means that getting to your stuff will be more predictable and consistent with how you already work.
If you’re wondering what happened to things like your recent docs and your social feed, don’t worry; they’re still here. You can always get to your recent documents under the Quick views entry or by clicking SkyDrive in the header. You can get to your social updates by going to http://live.com and using the photos and documents filter to get the specific items you’re looking for.
For those of you who are using Internet Explorer 9, we’ve also provided a fast way to get to SkyDrive from your Windows Taskbar using Pinned Sites and Jump Lists. In doing so, you have even faster access to your SkyDrive and quick access to common tasks like creating Office documents.
But we’re not done, and we’re continuing to make SkyDrive even better. Since we take an iterative approach to building software, not all of SkyDrive has been redesigned at this time. There are parts of the experience like creating a new album, uploading, renaming files, sharing, and editing permissions that are also scheduled to get a makeover soon.
One important area of focus for SkyDrive was on making your photos shine. For many of us, our photos represent our most cherished memories, and they deserve an immersive, fast experience that gets the browser out of the way and lets the photos speak for themselves. When you view your photos in SkyDrive, you get a clean, rich view that fills the browser.
When you select an album, the new mosaic layout displays your pictures in a way that lets you see all your photos in their original aspect ratio. We create thumbnails that reflect the way you took the picture, whether it be a portrait, a landscape, or a panorama shot.
Regardless of what screen you have, how big your browser window is, or how many photos you have, SkyDrive always arranges your photos in a clean layout that preserves the original aspect ratio. To do this, we use CSS3 Transitions, a new standard that lets us use subtle animations to rearrange the thumbnails when you resize the browser window. There are early levels of support already in Firefox 4+, Chrome X+, and in IE 10+.
With infinite scrolling, we’ve eliminated pages in the photo viewing experience. Now, you can just scroll the page and see your photos quickly fill in. It looks and feels like a native application.
To see the new photo album experience, just click a photo. The experience puts you in control of what you’re looking at and gets out of your way.
The album viewer is built using HTML5 and supports a variety of browsers. If your browser supports accelerated graphics, like Internet Explorer 9, you’ll notice things are fast and fluid. We also take advantage of the HTML5 video tag to support playback of H.264 videos (up to 100 MB), which is also new for this release.
Additionally, these features all work in your SkyDrive groups as well. So if you have created a group for your family, soccer league, or any other group, you have the same lightning fast, beautiful experience interacting with your shared photos and documents. And we’ve brought things like one click access to your group mailing list right in SkyDrive.
The SkyDrive team hopes you enjoy these improvements. This release represents the beginning of a lot of things we’re excited to bring you, and we’re looking forward to shedding more light on those features as they take shape.
Group Program Manager, SkyDrive.com
1) How will Mesh integrate into this, if at all?
2) Will the lack of ads extend to Hotmail, too? I think the world would love you so much if that did happen.
3) Are you actually moving away from "Wave" releases? (Please say yes, please say yes!)
4) How in the world did you guys manage to do this before the Bing HTML5 release? (Congrats)
5) How will it fit in with Windows 8?
Also, awesome work.
Blah Blah Blah. When do we get Mesh integration?
Great work guys! Waiting anxiously to try! Exciting news!
Questions as above, no more Waves? (thank God) Mesh?
This thing looks amazing, good job - can't wait to try it! What's eta for international rollout?
Mainly: will be there finally usable url at least for photo albums? Like "skydrive.live.com/NICK"? Can i upload video for example in "mpeg" or "matroska"?
@revolutions, @Bernard Angustia Hey, thanks for the feedback about Mesh. We don't have anything to announce at this time, but rest assured we've heard the feedback.
Our intent for SkyDrive is to ship when we have interesting stuff to ship :-)
@Capli sorry we don't have that feature yet, but we are aware of the request!
thanks for toning down alot of the "social" aspects (i like the "sharing" stuff... I just don't need so much "social" stuff in my face all the time)... they just got in the way. new design is so clean. i love it. keep up the great work. MS is really firing full steam ahead right now. Can't wait for Xbox game saves and "Zune/Xbox/Whatever yall end up branding music + video" to get integrated as well.
Is there an easy way to mount the skydrive as drive in Windows Explorer?
While this is a much needed upgrade for speed and simplicity, there is still a glaring omission: I can't move files from one folder to another. WHY? Or is this feature just really hard to find?
The previous version did not have this feature if the file was in the root, but you could move files if they were in folders. Now the ability to move files seems to be gone.
How can this be called a "Drive" if you can't move files?
Promote! Promote! Promote! I don't think that many people know about SkyDrive and its awesomeness.
Sounds great! One thing:
I'm having trouble pinning SkyDrive to my taskbar. Instead of seeing the SkyDrive icon as seen in the video, the shortcut shows up as a clumsy IE logo in a white box. It works, but it's a bit of an eyesore. Any advice?
@wesdo not right now
@pedrool we don't support moving from the top level into a folder, nor from a folder into the top level. However, other moves should be supported. Also, we realize this limitation is not a good one, so we're working to improve this.
@ Omar Shahine When will the 50MB File Size restriction be lifted? When will there be the ability to expand storage above 25GB, Between Storing all my pictures and schoolwork files in SkyDrive I'm coming dangeriously close to running out of space.
Great work! I like the new streamlined view, and the left-side navigation pane that you can use to select documents or pictures. It is becoming more consistent with Windows, like you mentioned, (which is great!) but there are still a few things missing. For instance, it seems odd to me that although SkyDrive does seem to support the storage and playback of videos, there is no "Videos" link in the left pane like there is for "Documents" and "Photos" (BTW, if you really want to be consistent with Windows folders and HomeGroup libraries the string "Photos" should be replaced with "Pictures" :-)). Also, I do hope that a future version also includes support for "Music" files and playback.
Awesome to see the SkyDrive UI improved. I truly hope that there will be a documented API for developers to access (prefereably C# for Windows Phone.) I can't wait to see the other Microsoft assets begin using SkyDrive (WIndows 8, Xbox Saved Games, Windows Phone, etc.)
Also, I hope when Live Mesh is integrated, we are no longer limited to 5GB of storage. That's not nearly enough to sync between systems.
And, when will there be options to increase our capacity beyond the free 25GB of storage?
This looks much better than before.
I echo the previous comments that I nevertheless would want to see Mesh integration before any more tweaking on the UI.
Finally, any chance that at some point we might get the option to share single files with other people, as opposed to folders? This is such a common scenario, that I have a single file I want to work on with someone, and now I always have to create a folder for that with only that file. So my folder structure is entirely dictated by my sharing needs, which is really, really not good. Google Docs has had this forever and it is super convenient.
I should also point out that one can actually share individual files when they are in the root, but not when they are in a folder. Really doesn't make any sense to me that way.
Good job everyone on the SkyDrive team. Keep it up, update more often, and really do something bigger with Mesh (as you've suggested in the past you're going to do). For more suggestions, bring back colored folders on my system so I can see what I'm syncing. Also, let me get more storage space. Finally, is there anything we can do to get some kind of XP support, even if it's basic? My workplace just doesn't have the budget to get anything newer than XP. =(
While this new UI is great, there really isn't too much going on with functionality. Yes it's great that it looks more similar to Windows Explorer, the problem is that it doesn't quite act like Windows Explorer. We need the ability to upload entire folders, Move multiple files, and Cut Copy and Paste multiple files within Skydrive. Most importantly, we need the ability to share individual files without sharing the entire folder. If I'm working on a project and I just want to show my friend one file I shouldn't have to move the file to an entirely different folder to do so. It's especially annoying since moving files is still not as easy as doing so in explorer.
@talexe can you unpin it and try again? It's possible the resources for the new icon had not been downloaded.
@odugoose the limit on the uploaded file size is now 100MB. On your other points, thanks for the feedback.
This new UI looks great. I'd also like to see all of the suggestions that have already been stated in the comments. I would also like to be able to edit a document at the same time as someone else, like in google docs. Without that feature, SkyDrive is not an option for collaboration with others. Please make this happen. Office web apps are so much better then google docs and that is the last thing keeping me from switching.
@OmarShahine or anyone: can you please describe how to move a file which is in a folder you create, to another folder?
Thanks for a much less confusing interface, and congratulations on a brilliantly-orchestrated rollout.. A couple of gripes (perhaps because I haven't had long enough to play):
Why no file extensions still? I can't tell the difference between paper.doc and paper.docx or between picture.png and picture.jpg without doing something. In Windows Explorer, I at least have the choice of showing extensions...
How do I see a full-sized image not constricted to the SkyDrive frame, like I could this morning by copying the shortcut from the context menu and opening it in a new window?
Can we expect similar functionality from WHS 2011 remote web access?
@davidacoder we have gotten a lot of feedback about the sharing limitations, and agree that the folder structure should not get in the way of sharing!
@Omar Shahine while the skydrive icon does show up when i pin it to the taskbar. I cannot get the jump list to work. again great work. keep integrating all of MS's assets into Skydrive (Xbox, Zune, Windows Phone, etc.)
Hi Omar, the updates are welcomed, but i have quite a few photos on SkyDrive synced storage, anyway of transferring that to my SkyDrive folders, as the synced storage doesn't have those cool features you mentioned above.
As i can see contents from Myphone service is directly integrate to the my files section. So we can be confused to see folders that did not appear before .So it's usefull for the transition the myphone will be discontinued.
The UI interface is clean and familar to explorer a goog mix for a good experience. Great Job.
Wainting for the next specialy for Mesh .
@ Omar Shahine I see that now, thx. However now I dont see anywhere that shows the space remaning, and thus the 25GB issue becomes even more worrysome with this release.
As an intensive skydrive user since d1 this is a really nice (and much needed) upgrade.
Among many others, here are some easy ones I sure hope will come soon:
- Ability to multiple-select (for delete, etc.) & drag-drop files (and why not folders), as one can do within hotmail.
- Right clic functionality (though I could do without this one if it really slowed the experience)
- Direct group access is nice, but it'd be nice to get nested "documents/photos" as for one's own data.
- Would be pretty convenient if one could sort by "shared with", as it's possible to do it with the other fields.
I'm glad skydrive is little by little becoming the heart of Windows Live services; at some point I thought you would even kill it. Keep it up !
I don't get the "View" or "Tasks" jump lists when I pin and right-click, either.
Like cmwind, I can pin the SkyDrive "cloud" icon but only the generic "unpin" section shows up...
This has happened with several different sites that I've tried - although my Hotmail icon is currently working.
What to do?
As for those asking for Mesh integration, personally I wouldn't like it. I really wouldn't like to get all my skydrive replicated on my hard drive, and as far as I go I'm happy with the current status:
- 25GB skydrive for "sharing with people"
- 5GB mesh-dedicated skydrive sync for my own stuff portability.
Those are to me completely diff uses that I wouldn't like to mix up with.
Not that it wouldn't be nice to browse skydrive from a PC (non-web) interface, but that's another story beyond mesh and syncing.
'Waves' are OK, they just take too long. The point of decoupling Windows Live was to allow faster iteration// what happened?
When is SkyDrive going to look as awesome as Kin Studio and be as useful as MyPhone?
@wesdo - You can easily map a SkyDrive folder as a drive letter - see this blog article... kb4sp.wordpress.com/.../hot-map-skydrive-folders-as-drive-letters-on-your-pc-using-webdav
Very nice! However, it'd be great when you close the full lightbox photo view to be popped back to the same point in the album mosaic view. Having to scroll back down through large folders is a bit of a pain! :)
i use very often and love the photo gallery function of sky drive for years. The new surface looks nice, but i am badly missing TWO functions.
1) automatic playing a slideshow of the photos of a folder (not clicking on each single photo!)
2) full screen function - without any menus etc.
also i wished there would have been implemented a function to play a sound parallel to an automatically playing slideshow!
But what has happende to 1) and 2) ??
Henning from Berlin, Germany
Forgot to add; please please please add pdf viewing capability within skydrive and without needing to download the document ...
Or at least identify files other than Office ones by fancy icons like in Windows ... At least for the most common ones...
Forget part of my previous comment; I-ve just noticed you've actually added those icons for some popular file types (like pdfs); now that's a nice addition I hadn't seen mentioned anywhere yet.
@writing.angel Indeed it seems we've lost a few nice features when moving from silverlight to html5 photo viewing.
Not only there is no "auto/slideshow", but we also lost the overlay photo comments and quotes. To view them now you need to let the side-panel opened, which to me at least it's worst.
You can still get your photos full screen without menus by simply clicking on them (and removing the side panel). Then navigate with arrow keys (though no "play" feature and no fancy colorizations).
All those things are still working if you watch them using Windows Live Essentials programs though; just not anymore in skydrive.
thanks a lot for your answers, even if i do not like them :-(
too bad, that a genuine, complete full screen without any other menus of my pc is impossible and the automatic playing of a slideshow, which i used a lot for entertaiment is not possible anymore. i did not notice the lacking of the comments so far, but this also is a step backwards!. i will look for an alternating system.
please excuse my faulty english, but you might enjoy more these photos of my last trip to Venice, Italy:
But why has the file size only been increaded till 100 MB!!!
If you have a normal canon ixus 100 photo cam and you record a 4 min 720p video you have 700mb files and thats only for 4min raw data...
If I would like to share my holiday pictures (200 photos and 15 small movies) I would like to share those small movies too without having to reformat them! Why having such a trouble with bigger file sizes...ggggrrrr...big disappointment!!!
Can someone tell me how I can share them without converting them into low quality movies because I bought a cam that could make HIGH QUALITY movies, a response please Ms Live Skydrive team?
I have a problem using updated SkyDrive in IE 9: I have 2 OneNote documents on SkyDrive, but how do I open and edit it? I clicked on the item but I cannot see any link to open it.
I notice that the photos don't seem to be picking up pre-existing Tag metadata (e.g. IPTC Core metadata). I do hope that this is coming. I have no wish to re-tag photos just for display in SkyDrive...
Great work! Especially the album view is very good! I think skydrive is getting really close to be a good alternative to gdocs/picasa. Here's some key points that are still missing.
- The folder structure has some strange limitations on move and permissioning depending on whether the element is a root element or a subfolder.
- It should be possible to upload full size fotos manually from windows phone.
- The slideshow must return.
- People markers should be better linked with hotmail contacts regardless if they are messenger friends or not (in picasa a similar feature exists although not so well done neither).
first of all great new features.
The only thing is: it looks like the favicon is not loading on my taskbar when I pin it.
Is this a known issue?
Nice work - a lot faster and the interface is clean and makes sense!
Great job done. Still missing some features though such as :
PDF reading support, multiple video formats support.
Hope the following features get included in the next updates. Mind blowing work. Keep it up.
I think you missunderstood part of my message. You can see your photos in full-screen without any kind of menu. To do that:
1st) Clic on any photo from the album → brings you to big photo + right menu + bottom thumbnails
2nd) Clic again over the large photo → gets rid of the bottom thumbnails
3rd) Remove the side menu by clicking on the "collapse" arrow on the top-left part of the menu bar
Now you can see your photos in fullscreen and navigate them using keyboard arrows or mouse (you need to clic towards the right / left edges of the photo)
What you cannot do is "autoplay", nor display the comments without the side-bar menu.
Hope that helped.
I love the new Wave 5 SkyDrive! It just needs more Mesh integration!
"I think you missunderstood part of my message. You can see your photos in full-screen without any kind of menu. To do that:
Now you can see your photos in fullscreen and navigate them using keyboard arrows or mouse (you need to clic towards the right / left edges of the photo)"
This is exactly, what i did, but we both missed another step: You MUST press button F11 on your PC-keyboard!! Otherwise you/i can still see all the other menu bars of the pc ...
"What you cannot do is "autoplay", nor display the comments without the side-bar menu."
I know, and specially to kick out the function of autoplay was a bad idea. I hope, the developers will correct this and bring it back.
"Hope that helped."
partially, but thanks a lot anyway
I guess I didnt check SkyDrive yesterday, which is odd because I almost use it daily when I'm away from home. However, I was psuprised to see such a nice, neat and organizaed UI. The only thing I can add is increased integration with Mesh and make sure the masses (hotmail, live, and Windows users) know that this exist. It would help to bring more users into the ecosystem if they knew of the plethora of resources available.
Thanks! The new UI is very clear. The whole SkyDrive website is noticably faster. HTML5 coolness is most welcome. This works beautifully in IE9 on my Windows 7 tablet, and equally well on IE8 on my ancient work PC..
All we need now is Zune integration, and a web API that's open to developers!
P.S. Features still needed:
- The ability to upload a whole folder with subfolders and files!
Nice upgrade, thanks for great work. The site is really faster and easier to use.
But i really miss multiselect, some icons next to links (rename, download etc...) and better integration of synced folders.
Also some Dev API and explorer integration would be great.
The other comments show great praise and I join in. The new SkyDrive looks and works great! As others have pointed out, there are some things that were lost and some very much desired features that are not (yet, I hope) available.
1) The loss of the slide show feature is most unfortunate. I have many blogs with links to slide shows that no longer work.
2) In many blogs, I and others, source images from SkyDrive. The old links still work, but there is now no way (that I could find) for obtaining the URL of an image so it could be inserted in a document or blog. Please don't make us source from Flickr or Picasaweb (both make it very easy).
3) Moving folders with contents to SkyDrive is a much needed and requested feature.
4) An easy way of mapping SkyDrive into Windows Explorer - with full functionality - will make many, many folks happy!
5) A short web address for SkyDrive photos and documents would make sharing much easier. We had that back in the days of Spaces - please bring easy addressesback (like flickr.com/photos/ludwigkeck, or picasaweb.google.com/LudwigKeck).
What I miss still after this Upgrade:
Make moving files easier. After this update it is still the old, slow working dialouge, wich seems to be not work with the same technique than the normal SkyDrive browsing does now.
Great work but I lost some files, does anyone knows how can I recover it?
Now, make me want to use it. For that I need a) Live Mesh capable of handling the full 25GB and my folder structure b) A mobile app that works across all OS platforms.
Don't make it as dead simple as Dropbox - not requiring passwords ;)
It looks like i can't view my photos with slide show, is that true?
Still, The uploading process doesn't take advantage of File API to upload multiple files at once.
@Carlos - Can you send me your email address offline and we'll look into this. I sent you a 'friend' request.
Hmmm, I like the new look. I will have to try this out when I get home, just to give Skydrive another chance to impress me.
But I do have some request. Support for Safari and Iphoto; I do keep all of my pictures in Iphoto. Please give the Onenote app some form support love.
This is an awesome update to my favorite cloud service. I have a question though: when are we gonna be able to view pdf files stored in skydrive in the browser? Keep up the good work guys
I am from rural part of India ,i really felt all hotmail,skydrive ,live services got some delay compared to others.Great updation to skydrive,things are pretty fast since you have changed to html 5.I am glad Microsoft are respecting w3c standards which is future so that it can be supporte in any browser (I am an opera fan). Make the hotmail rid of ads and make faster to load like others (especially opera )
Any way all this transformations are tuned considering windows 7 phones and future windows editions (win 8) tablets,cloud computing,this are steps in right direction i think.
Currently i am using Gmail as primary and hotmail as secondary.With meaningful and rightful efforts are coming from MSFT.,i would like to switch live services as primary (if you guys are making with cross browser support :it will be not an issue if you guys are not opting for your own propeitary technology and stick on html5).
I will surely buy windows phone 7 with mango update from nokia : i think wp7 mango is superior to other half bake toy offerings .Its pretty sure windows is going to surpass IOS and mac threats within 2 or 3 years frame.Once Nokia land up the market windows phone sale will boost up.So make skydrive (future of computing ),hotmail,live services,office make easier to access and redesign with html5 in that time
Looks very nice. Unfortunately, I can no longer access any of my documents using office 2010 from IE9 on Wndows 7 - "Open in links" do nothing. Had no trouble with old UI (been using it every day for months).
Works from another PC ... I hava tried reinsalling live, office clearing security, history etc. I have compared add-ins with the other machine all looks the same.
Searching the web suggests I am not the only one who now has this problem (IE9 users).
How about an audit your settings button somehere? (there are quite a few).
you still don't have the ability to sort photos by date taken? or auto rotate them to show them all upright automatically? Google album has had this for so many years....
Omar and Dan, you know I have the utmost respect for you. But seriously, what were you guys thinking releasing this in the current state? Dropbox has already set the bar pretty high, and this doesn't even come close. I thought the whole point of the Windows Live division was to make online services that seamlessly worked with (and therefore increased the value of) the Windows OS. And there's no way to mount my SkyDrive in Windows?! Sadly, I think I have to agree with Matt Rosoff from Business Insider. SkyDrive only makes Dropbox look better in comparison. I'm looking forward to the next rev.
Ok, I have tried it. It is nice.
It did undo the rotation i had on my photos in Iphoto once they were loaded onto the Skydrive. The Skydrive photo tools do not allow me to rotate my photos...really, this is a basic function of managing photos...please correct this.
the Mosaic feature is not available in Safari.
An add photo or video button needs to be added to the interface when I have the album open.
Nice, but a bit useless to me. Tried using WebDAV with it, wouldn't even let me copy over a paltry 3MB file (!)
@Noel Burgess thanks for the feedback on the file extensions. Will share with the team. Also on full screen, for now F-11.
@justinsoong not yet
@writing.angel 1) when we moved from the Silverlight slideshow to an HTML based one, we didn't implement a play button. In doing our research we found that users preferred controlling playback themselves, and the value of hitting play and sitting back to watch wasn't all that important relative to other features and 2) also when we moved to HTML browsers don't allow us to invoke full screen mode, but you can do so by using F-11 on a PC (full screen mode)
@danielgr also would like to see native PDF viewing :-) and we have release notes here http://tinyurl.com/skydrivelog that includes the note about the PDF icons.
@drankurn if by "slideshow" what you mean is automatic playback of photos, then we no longer have that feature. But we still have a slide show view, although you need to click to advance or use the next and previous arrow keys.
@Dave C. you know better than most that every release of Software is merely a snapshot in time. We aren't done. I made that pretty clear above, maybe not clear enough.
@All for all of you that I didn't individually respond to. Sorry! Rest assured we have seen your feedback! And we do take it to heart. Thanks for the positive comments and all the good suggestions (and in some cases for pointing out what is already painfully obvious to those of us who work on the team) :-).
The new changes look great.
But all my albums are now in a completely different order than they where before. It seems that the modified date, has been changed on some of the albums.
When I first uploaded them, I was very careful to upload them in the right order, but i'm sad to see that order is somewhat gone now. I have a lot of albums.
Couldn't you implement a feature, that allows you to rearrange the albums, like you can with the photos?
Live Mesh integration is possible with SkyDrive, but only in a limited sence. This is how it can be done:
"In the new SkyDrive, click on the link ‘View Synched Folders’ and it’ll show the folders synched with Windows Live Mesh"
Check MJ's blog post for more information: www.zdnet.com/.../9759
@pedrool: @OmarShahine or anyone: can you please describe how to move a file which is in a folder you create, to another folder?
- Information - Move/Copy
"We removed ads to create room for a pane of info about your files, so you can do things like open a doc in Word or Excel on the desktop, directly from SkyDrive"
I echo Revolutions remarks, will the removal of ads extend to hotmail?
it's a really nice update, but me and my friends have some problems with the UI:
it is not possible to see the icons for the Office Web Apps and the New Folder in create:.... You see the links if you move the mouse cursor there and you can open a new document.
The same happens with the Thumbnails and Detais View icons.
The same user has problem on one computer, but he has no problem on the other computer.
On one computer some users can see the icons and some users can't.
It happens in a domain and in a workgroup.
We use IE9\Windows7 (64 and 32 bit Windows7 and 32 bit IE9) and IE8\WindowsXP SP3 (32 bit).
Uhhmm... wow MS. This is actually really good. Seems like a week ago I was complaining about how much of a mess SkyDrive was... now just simplify the home Live page view and it is all set it seems.
"Live Mesh integration is possible with SkyDrive, but only in a limited sence. This is how it can be done:
Most people here concerned about the broken line from Mesh and the rest of SkyDrive are aware of this already and have pinpointed this in prior comments. We know you can store items in that Synched Folders view via the desktop Mesh client. The PROBLEM lies in that files synchronized this way are stored SEPARATELY in that Synched Folders link from files stored in the regular folders of part of SkyDrive that allows for editing Office documents in the browser or on Windows Phone in Mango. There is no direct line of sight for documents stored on a PC to those stored in SkyDrive that can be accessed and edited anywhere, not just a desktop PC. Mesh appears only necessary for a small business that needs control over its files, not the user who wants anytime, anywhere access. The cross-section of the breakage in storage between desktop documents synched via Mesh and those stored in the SkyDrive folders reminds me of Android fragmentation where developers get pissed off with the different Android stacks that break apps. Here with Mesh and SkyDrive, there was never united platform to break. Mesh and SkyDrive are not the same, so while there is an option to edit documents on the desktop in Office 2010 and IMMEDIATELY save them to SkyDrive as if it were a SharePoint, there is not simpler way to sync like you used to be able to do when you edited a file in any version of Office and saved it to a folder synched via Live Mesh Beta.
The question for Microsoft isn't why have Mesh AND SkyDrive, it's why when you had Live Mesh Beta that DID allow for iCloud-like sync from Desktop-Cloud-Windows Mobile would you deliberately regress the system and cause more problems for device-cloud-device interoperability? I could save pictures, docs, .pdfs, etc in one place and they would sync to wherever I asked Live Mesh Beta. They also WOULDN'T sync if I did not want them to. This "excitement" over "new" capabilities is ignorant and makes no sense when Microsoft should have straightened this mess out over a year ago. Ars Technica spelled the problem out quite nicely in terms of Mesh and SkyDrive co-habitating on the same property with no real value in the separation of the two for end-users. Files synched from the desktop should be available to the user in the SkyDrive folders. Whenever and wherever those files are changed, those updates should immediately be synced to all devices and cloud storage that have that synchronizing relationship. LOL in short, Skydrive and Mesh should be combined, because although you can back desktop documents to the cloud, they aren't truly SkyDrive accessible if accessing and editing documents is what SkyDrive's function is said to be.
i am really disappointed, that the developers just ignored the wishes of quite some people, who used the slideshow mode so far. was it so complicated or even expensive to program the slideshow function? i used it very often, personally for me and for representing certain shows to others. i will now move all my foto albums to Picasa, where this function still is available.
Thank You and Good Bye!
Is there a way to delete a bunch of photos with a single operation? I have several on skydrive that came from the cameraroll and I don't see a way to multi-select, then delete. Surely must be missing something obvious here. Thanks
There are two major things that bug me about SkyDrive.
1. No favorites Sync to the web
2. No photo sync from Windows Live Photo Gallery
As far as favorites go, you can use Mesh to sync them between computers, but what about being able to access my favorites from the web so that I can have them when I'm away from my home computer? What about favorites sync with Windows Phone 7?
As far as photo sync, with Google Picasa, I can sync a folder to their web service automatically. If I make changes to a photo, add a tag or location information, etc, it is automatically synced to the web or synced back down to my computer. If I use Windows Live Gallery, I have nothing better than a dumb button that lets me upload picture files to SkyDrive. No sync. Skydrive photos are not visible in WLPG. I have to delete, then re-upload pictures to Skydrive if I need to make changes, or add information. YUCK!
@JBundyLive Good write-up. While we don't have anything to announce at this time, rest assured we've definitely heard the feedback!
I just wanted to add my thoughts...
1. I like the new interface. It's becoming easier to understand.
2. The favicon that I first put on my taskbar was just an ugly white ie logo. Like many others, that process is not working smoothly. However, the nice skydrive logo finally showed up when I tried it again. However, it should "just work" the first time.
3. There should be no folder restrictions. It needs to work like a regular drive. Having one public folder does make sense to me, though.
4. I should be able to drag files (and folders) from my W7 desktop straight onto my skydrive window. The uploading process is downright 1990's.
5. There need to be right-click options, like open, copy and especially delete. Clicking on the file and using the options to the right is not intuitive.
6. There should be an obvious button on the side that let's you quickly purchase more online storage.
7. I would like a Mesh-synced folder, but I don't want it for my entire skydrive.
8. Yep - we need music. Apple fans are laughing their ass off.
9. The continuing ****deal breaker**** - We need to upload entire folders. I just can't use skydrive without this.
Awesome work, looks really cool.
Keep it up!
You need to let us upload folders! It says "upload the files inside the folders", but what if inside the folder is more folders, and it would be complex to set up again online??
Please add this feature!!
Looks much better, I actually want to use this now.. Could use some improvements:
1) Some way to display remaining free space similar to the way it is shown when you "View synced folders"
2) Put a play button back into slide show. It is nice to be able to have a self running slide show with transitions, random play, repeat play and configurable time delay. I would like to use SkyDrive as a digital picture frame.
3) Provide an iPad app so that I can use SkyDrive instead of Dropbox
4) Why limit video size to 100mb when you give us 25GB of storage. My typical home videos usually range from 400 to 500MB. Google Docs lets me store these files.
@Omar Shahine Hi First i'm happy about the update of Skydrive it really needed to get it but it's not perfect.
1)Now i'd like to know why we can't move a file from a folder to another folder???? Unbelievable you didn't think about this feature
2) When i watch photos on Skydrive, Slideshow feature disappeared and full screen mode too, so i can use F11 ok but slideshow....
3) I'd like to know why there is an animation (and how to disable it) when i slide photos on Skydrive. I have two PC, the first is a 4 years old HP DV6000 on windows 7 32bits who perfectly work well but not so powerful (intel chipset family and dual core 1,86 GHz) and another is more recent with a real graphic card. On the last one PC no problem when i watch photos it's smooth but with the first one it's not smooth because of the animation during transitions between photos, really awful effect. I don't understand because there's no animations on WLM 2011 (to watch photos albums), neither on flick'r or on Facebook works perfectly well but not on Skydrive. It's a mystery for me. I know you work on powerful PC but it's not the case of everybody.... Please go at the essential, the more it is simple and accessible, the more people use.
4) On office Web Apps why can't we just justify the text i really don't understand, oddly it's possible in Google Docs....
5) In windows Live Mail, there's a big problem of reading when i receive a lot of attanchements, it's unreadable. No indicators. Last time i received a lot of PDF in one email in my inbox it was really hard to see which one i've ever download. Problem of readability, size of icons is too big. So it's not good but the problem of readability is only when you got a of attachments.
I cricticize your products because i love them and i know you can make it better. You're doing a great job guys, you're on the right way. (Sorry for my english, i'm french)
Very cool. I like the new interface, very easy to use. But I'm missing an option, to sort the files by type.
It's great to see this stuff but to be honest I'm also looking for some more things to happen in the Mesh department. The size issue doesn't matter to me that much however an increase to let's say 10 GB would be nice, but what's much more important to me are the following points:
1. Integrate Office Web Apps with Mesh already, hate how I get stuck here on PC's without Office or PC's that I'm not syncing too and I quickly have to edit a file but can't re-upload it (See point 2).
2. Allow the creation of new folders and the uploading of new or updated files again in the web interface, just like it was possible in the old Mesh Beta; I seriously miss this feature.
3. Bring back the options to choose the views (Tiles, List, Details) in the web interface.
4. An option to color the synced folders, kind of like in the old Beta which turned the synced folders blue.
5. A better viewer for pictures and videos, again like the old Mesh Beta which had the slideshow view as well as playing videos on the fly in the web interface.
When the latest version Mesh was released with Windows Live Essentials, I was very disappointed that all these features had been removed. That's also why I kept using the Mesh Beta to the very end in March when we were forced to switch.
Really hoping these options will come back soon.
I have two very burning questions..
1) When will Microsoft have a Easy and Properly Documented API somthing Like Drop Box.
2) When will it allow Multiple File and Folder Uploads.
Please tell if you ave any news of that, :)