Windows Phone 7.5 update status

Excellent job on a very complicated roll out.  You and your team deserve a big thank you for improving the experience and listening to your customer base.

No news about Omnia 7 (Deutsche Telekom)?

Glad to hear the rollout is going so well. Hopefully this will appease some critics after the updates from earlier this year.

Having done enterprise wide rollouts, I can fully understand the slow initial approach before opening it up further. Guess just in this case, I'm excited to get the update, still not yet, that I keep checking a couple times a day just in hopes. I know it'll get here and can't wait.

Thanks to the WP7 team for all their work.

Any comment on the "trick" used by many to force the phone update? Is that safe?

I plugged mine in a couple of days ago and it said I was up to date so I decided to "force" the update. It then found not one but TWO updates, one after the other and collectively took around half hour to update.

I have used it for a few days now and all seems stable. Thanks Microsoft.

PS. There are still a few BASIC features missing such as creating custom colours for themes via a hex selector.

Excellent new Eric!  I was able to update my Focus the day it was available.  Update went so smooth.  Loving Mango!

I'm guessing if my phone still shows no update available, I've got at least another week to wait?

Nice work!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

@Marek I fully expect us Omnia 7 owners too have a good wait ahead of us, but cant blame Microsoft, solely lands at Samsungs door and this is the last Samsung device I buy.

Awesome! This is obviously a hard thing to do.

Fantastic! Eric, you really have turned this ship around almost 180 degrees! It was bound to take time, but it's just about heading in the right direction now. Excellent Job! You and your team should sleep well at night! P.S. I was able to "cut in line" to get the update since I wasn't randomly selected to go first. And I can say Mango is just fantastic, great experience from the update through to using it!!!

This is precisely what I predicted in one of the other threads.  I figured that, although the first week was only supposed to be 10% of all users, that so many were using the Zune trick to "cut in line", and no significant issues were being reported, that I wouldn't be surprised if they accelerated the rollout.  This truly is amazing, when you think about it.  First, expectations were clearly WAY low because of what happened with NoDo.  Second, this update is so massive and Android has YET to even come close to a deployment like this.  Seriously, hitting devices across all carriers at the same time?  Even given the initial slow-roll to make sure no gotchas popped up, show me where Android came make this claim.  I suspect that some arm-twisting went on with the carriers to get them in line on this one, and that it's really only the truly unique instances (e.g., Focus 1.4) that are--unfortunately--forced to wait just a bit longer.  For those folks in that particular camp, I'd probably take this as a sign that you may see the update sooner than expected, too.  If they get 100% rollout for the majority, then that may mean they have no cause to delay the outliers.

Regardless of what some haters will say about Mango, or what they might say about Microsoft, I think the reasonable people could agree that some valuable lessons were learned from the NoDo update (by ALL parties) and this rollout, while not ideal, is a remarkable turnaround.  It will be very interesting to see how the Tango update rolls a few months from now.  Since some of the legacy devices apparently are hardware-capable of some of the additional features, it's evidently on the shoulders of carriers and/or OEMs to come up with the appropriate drivers & supporting software to interface with the new APIs (e.g, hidden Wi-Fi, magnetic compass,etc.).  AT&T is allegedly working on adding the Visual Voicemail feature (though I have zero use for that).  Anyway, I wouldn't be surprised if those OEM- or carrier-specific updates don't show up as part of Tango.  I only say that because it looks like the carriers don't like to pop out updates very frequently (e.g., Focus 1.3 devices had to wait for Mango to get the SSL updates that were in 7392).

Forced the update. Works perfectly.

Best. Update. Ever.  :D  Nice work MS.  Mango is awesome, deployment has been brilliant. Amazing achievement and the turn-around of the century from the last one.

iFruit 5 by comparison = meh

However we WP7 enthusiasts are a demanding lot. :D  Clarification on when Tethering is coming to GEN1 handsets (Samsung devices have been proven to work now) would be nice. Also, OEM partners need to also advise if firmware updates will allow DLNA functionality on GEN1 devices also....

Both of these areas covered in more detail on recent posts at my site:  http://www.wpdownunder.com  :D

what about everybody that have the samsung focus v1.4 why is it we have to wait until the end of the month I've own this phone since Nov 8/10 the first day  and this phone is alway the one left out please give us this update now we beg you....

Great work on getting the update out to everyone so quickly

Forced mango update no problems but marketplace wont download apps or games

Dear Microsoft/WP Team,

Why aren't there Windows Phone Mango ads on TV, Xbox Live, Facebook etc? Microsoft needs to use their own services to spread the word about WP7.5!

BTW congrats on improving the rollout this time around and those who are still waiting should do the force Mango trick, i've done it for my friends HD7 and Surround and both are running smooth!

I lost out on the 50%, and can't get the forced update to work, so am still waiting.  I hope everyone that has Mango is enjoying it.

And why can't you update on the fate of Focus v1.4 owners? Microsoft says it is Samsung which is delaying the update. Samsung Twitter support rep says it is ATT which is delaying and ATT customer service rep says they have no plan yet for Mango update and Samsung is yet to hand over the update to them. October end is a tentative date and we've heard nothing officially. This whole mess makes me wonder anyone in Microsoft care at all.

I have a HTC Surround, and there is no Mango yet!!!

I don´t know how you select the phones, but in the update central says that is ready for AT&T Surround, and thats all, this is no usefull information. I want to know when **MY** update will be ready, please!!

This has been the best most problem free experience I have ever had with any smartphone! I hope that this level of quality and service remains for years to come / forever. No MS is not new to the smartphone game, and it's good to see that the data and the feedback are being put to good use. I think what's failed to be mentioned is that WM5-6.X was just out dated and most likely stretched past it's limit as far as what can be done with it. In it's heyday WM was the Sh$@ and I used it's features to impress many with my Samsung Black Jack 1. Although I have to admit as time went on I started to have doubts about my future with WM,,,,, but, one day WP was introduced and MY LIFE WAS SAVED! No, really, Windows Phone 7 SAVED MY LIFE because I felt that the iPhone was to "pop and I was upset, but convinced, that Android was going to be my only hope. Still I had my doubt's about WP, but early test devices came out and the opinions of others, besides MS, were very positive. Month After month the praise continued and WP was finally released. Well, My Samsung focus has definitely kept that promise and now I owe my life to MS!

Disclosure: I do not in any way, shape, form, or fashion owe my life to MS. I just like the phones allot. :)

I forced the update. It took 6 hours to get everything updated (mainly because there were three updates, and each update started with a 2 hour backup step--I have about 35GB of data on my phone.)

Aside from how long it took, the procedure was flawless, and I could not be more pleased with Mango and the sheer capability it has brought to my phone. It's absolutely stunning.

Now we just need for the app devs to port their apps to take advantage of Mango's features.

Here's a video tutorial for those struggling with the Force mango trick: http://youtu.be/bO0ZnoKXyqY It's definitely all in the timing on the disconnect of the Ethernet plug after hitting [Update] on Zune, It's like 1-2secs.

Hope that works for you guys still waiting on Mango.

Great Job Microsft!  My update was smooth and I am loving the new features. Lets keep the momentum going with the next one.  Microsoft has nothing to be ashamed of with this phone.  It speaks for itself.  Microsoft and its partners just need to put together an aggresive marketing campaign to make the public aware of the phone.

Great job!   Other a small glitch (yeah, I have Verizon), everything looks/works great.  I see only big things for WinPhone.

Its nice to see you guys have learned from the past and have worked on the update process, very happy

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Got my Mango :) love the update! Knew i made the right decision, saw the potential of WP from the beginning :)

I have an THc Mozart from T-mobile. I got a message that I have an update, but when I connected my phone to get the update, the zune software said that my phone is uptodate. What can I do to solve this issue?

messaging is awesome in mango...especially facebook and msn messnager integration..

now im 24*7  availability.....its amazing .thanks for ur great efforts

Eric could you make a phone call to Deutsche Telekom about the Omnia 7 ?

Updated my unbranded Omnia 7 w/o any problems :)

Very nice!

I now understand why the compass API wasn't enabled from the start on: It SUCKS :D (My room doesn't seem to have a north face...)

Loving Mango!!!! Please get the whip out to speed up the Omnia 7 update to others. I am able to taste mango because am a dev.. and it rocks !!

hey,everone. I have forced the Mango Update from 7392.  This is Orange O7 in France. It seems alright, but I can not update my Now app in Samsung Zone. Does anybody have the same issue?

@Eric "I’ll be back next week with another update."

Another update on update process or another phone update? ;)

As usual.  No mention of the V1.4 Focus.

Its been almost a week, its very frustrating to keep waiting for the updates. None, MS, HTC or Service providers are able to advise the update availability.

Why can't Microsoft simplify the process of update and either make it available for all or specify exact dates when the updates can be released for country, manufacturer or service provider.

I wouldn't recommend upgrading to WP7.5 mango if you use Exchange 2003 (which is ALOT of people).  The problem is when you reply to an email, everything below your reply gets stripped.  So if it's an email that's been going back and forth and has a long thread of the conversation, that all gets stripped away when you reply using your phone (if you have mango, and Exchange 2003).

More info here, and please vote for this fix:

windowsphone.uservoice.com/.../2281095-fix-exchange-2003-email-reply-issue

I hope Eric see this and can offer a solution:

From www.windowsphone.com/.../account

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Go to windowsphone.com

I have created dozens of different email accounts but yet still cannot solve this issue. Googling proves that many others are in the same dilemma.

This is  a very frustrating experience. My next device may not be from M$.

After updating to my Windows Phone 7 to Mango everything works fine but when I see Facebook in Settings-->email+accounts its showing error 0x83cf1202.

Rishi

www.techknackblogs.com

I notice a few of you said you "forced" the update.  How do you do this?  I would like to try it.

Thanks

I hope MS uses 7.5 as a foundation to then release quick feature updates, as opposed to waiting another year for a major release. For example I think they have heard enough complaints about the new IE9 mobile layout that they should release an upgrade within the next two months that addresses the complaints. Also, sounds like there's some issues for corporate users using exchange, etc.

People LOVE updates. If it's even a couple of tweaks, people love plugging in their phone and updating it to get more features. I understand it's more advantageous to roll everything into one large update as each update requires carrier testing, rollout, etc. However each time you release an update it gets the community buzzing, the blogs are putting out articles and it keeps Windows Phone's name out there in the tech community. Something MS REALLY needs right now.

@abathrick - Just Bing "Mango Zune Force Update" and you will find multiple sites which show you how to force the update. Keep in mind if your phone is not on the list of "Delivering Update" this trick will not work.

Wow,even CNN is drooling about the iPhone 5,whereas I haven't seen any mango add on Any TV channel.

Zune devices are dead,why?extremely poor marketing to the point it didn't even take off.is windows phone taking I don't think so.is it being marketed?No.

So where are we heading to?

I like Mango and Microsoft, so I'm sorry to report my problems with upgrading an AT&T Samsung Focus, twice.

A week ago, I bought a Focus, solely to test 7.5 (with the intent of buying a Focus S within 30 days). I successfully, if slowly, "forced" the update, which worked fine for about 12 hours, then froze the device. AT&T said take it back to replace it, and I did.

I "force" updated the 2nd Focus successfully. I noticed that calendar feature didn't work, and some texting bugs. Otherwise, I loved it. Quite incredible actually.

But then it locked up too.

So, I'll return it to AT&T and await the Focus S (or something else according to whim).

Anyone else with lock up problems?

Breaking News! Microsoft figured out how to ship a software update after an enormous effort. Way to go!

Hello,

if I did not now (October 4, 2011 19:18 (UTC +01)) received an update on my Mango Samsung Omnia 7 (open market phones - Czech Republic), it means that not even the 50%? Or is it still sends out?

Please excuse my very bad English :-(

MS better hurry and get Mango out on the TV and on the WEB!  With Apple only announcing an iPhone4s, Mango can get a TON of attention!  All the iSheep are pissed right now!  Take advantage of this MS!!!!

I'm sorry. I enjoy my WP and the OS as much as anyone. But as a former IPhone owner who enjoyed the phone immensely, I take offense to terms like "iSheep." It implies that those like myself went with an iPhone not aware of its pros and cons and on its name alone and that's far from the case. Its just childish, IMO.

@ StephenPT.........I couldn't agree more. That was said perfectly!

@ Kenny Rawlins....I couldn't agree more. That was said perfectly!

Just got the notification on my Omnia 7 - Network locked to Orange UK. Updated fine! Took around 1 hour to complete installing the two updates.

All seems good so far! One scare when i turned it on and off after the update had finished presented me with a black screen and only the status bar showing. Powered on and off and has been fine so far....

@Captain Eric, I'm sorry to hear about your situation with the Focus.  I'm curious to know if yours was the v1.4 or the v1.3.  I've got the v1.3 and had zero issues with either Mango Beta 2 or the final.  I've been incredibly happy with the final version.  And, sadly, it appears that none of the 2nd gen WP7 devices will have anything above 16GB of memory, so I will be sticking with the original Focus until either someone releases at least a 32GB device or one that supports adding memory.  I've got nearly 800 songs stored on my device right now, plus a lot of video podcasts...I'm not about to give that up.

My personal bias aside, I think IntoMobile has probably the most fair take on all three platforms as they stand now:  www.intomobile.com/.../apple-ios-5-vs-windows-phone-mango-vs-android

www.msnbc.msn.com/.../39104913

Despite WP's lackluster, almost nonexistent advertising, this may have saved WP7.5 from being over looked.

@ Tony Dedrick

I think you are being a bit overly sensitive there. I don’t think Hawk was calling you personally an iSheep.  I think he was probably generalizing.  I mean, let’s face it, you can’t deny Apple has a large consumer base which will trip over themselves to get the latest tech Apple puts out.  Not because it is great tech, but because it is perceived as cool and cutting edge (it’s not always as cool and cutting edge as they think).  Don’t get me wrong, Apple is where it is today because they have continuously put out good products.  However, don’t fool yourself into thinking that all of the Apple consumers are well educated on the “pros and cons” of the iPhone compared to its competitors.

Before you respond to this and tell me the same crowd exists within the Microsoft and Google camps, let me tell you I agree.  However, I will go on to say, the Microsoft and Google fans are far more critical of their respective camps than the Apple fans are.

@ Microsoft

I know I have already expressed my praise for this latest update, but I feel it is warranted again.  You really have developed a phone that stands by itself.  It is pleasing to use and it emphasizes the things I want to do on my smartphone.  I look forward to the next update.  Don’t get complacent there I plenty more we can do with the WP platform.

I've just tried to upgrade to Windows Phone 7.5 after receiving the update notice on my phone. The entire process went fine until the very last step, 8 of 9. It restarted my Samsung Focus Ver. 3.1 and it hung on the at&t world phone screen. The Zune software shut itself down on my pc without me doing anything. So I've taken out battery, restarted phone, hung up on at&t screen. Tried to connect phone back to the pc. The zune software no longer recognizes my phone. The phone will not turn on or off. It is bricked.

I've searched the Microsoft site for any sollution recommendation. Nothing I could easily find there as I don't get an error number on the phone.

The Windows 7.5 Mango update is a disaster for me.

@ScubaDog201.. Yeah, that article is fair. Can you see how level the field is becoming and so fast, almost overnight.

The best point Marin made is no matter which OS you choose you really cant' go wrong. They all are really cool.

OK, now it's WP time! Can you see how much progress WP has made since it's conception? MS has had to do 5 years of work in 2 years, if you compare it to Apple and Google. Just imagine if MS continues at this pace for another 2 years, the devices would have to be the most advanced and functional available. We should be able to send our devices to work for us by then, LOL. But, why cant all of this effort be made public? What's the wait? Why wait for Nokia?

I'd better see a commercial by the end of next week or th,,,, Oh, wait a minute. I think they might be waiting for Android to reveal ICS! Yeah, smart move. let Ap. & An. deliver their boring news,, and I tell you I was kind of worried that the "iPhone5" was going to be killer,,,,and after that blows over hit em with something they haven't yet seen before. Get it, something they haven't seen before? LOL...Anyways, that article was accurate and I can't wait to see that same story this time next year. It should be interesting.

Why have I seen only 1 advertisement about 7.5...what is the marketing dept doing? Yet, iPhone 4s came out today and I've already seen 3 ads...please fix this.

am really happy to announce that it was a smooth upgrade to 7.5 on my unlocked Omnia7 here in India...i was pretty surprised when all of a sudden a pop up appeared notifying me of update and i was about to sleep...but the excitement of mango made me to open my laptop and go for the upgrade...initially it was the 7.0.7403.0 update which happened within 15mins or so, then again another pop-up came up saying another update is available and i continued....this time the downloading of update took about 3.5hrs and i battled hard with my sleep to see it happen...after the download it took about another 20mins after which i saw the brand new red color square shaped windows phone logo and i was so thrilled...added to it, my phone showed a message, Update Success....

So here i am like a crazy man, sitting and typing this message as my clock hits 5am..My initial check showed everything is working smooth...I shall take up the updates and exploration of the new OS by tomorrow...And Yes the best news is marketplace now works for me, yipeee!

Thanks Eric & team & ofcourse MS for keeping up the promise of delivering updates within few days of the official rollout and what is even more fantastic to know is that you guys have ensure a sorted out the earlier update issues with Omnia 7..

With a happy mind i am hitting the sack folks...best of luck for your updates...

cheers

When can we expect some of our suggested features on windowsphone.uservoice.com/.../101801-feature-suggestions to be accepted by the WP Team? And whats the likely hood of a few of these making it into the "Tango" update before the next major update "Apollo" rolls out?

One thing i would currently like to see is Microsoft release some Apps into the market place that can enhance our WP7.5 experience even more.  A SkyDrive App might be a good start.

I updated my HTC Trophy and i can see windows have very much improved the operating system.

But since i have updated it, i cant add my email account, it just goes blank and then back to menu page.

When going onto my contact it freezes.

I have updated it twice, but from looking at the comment below i dont think anyone has had problem to my extent.

It doesn't show no error code either.

Any one got any idea of what to do?

My experience of the update was just excellent, only complain I have is ....will spend lot's of time on phone against my will, I will be compelled to explore....:). Multi tasking is ex excellent and so is overall experience of managing emails.

Am on Samsung focus, first generation wp7 phone but should say working without major hick-up except changing regions regularly and chiming problems.  1st problem seems to be OS problem and hopefully resolved in new OS and other is hardware problem, hopefully Samsung will improve and make better & sturdy device in future. Waiting for European and Japanese makers launch their device in market. Overall happy and satisfied user converted from RIM and eying  to have advantage over i-phones....

P.S. Was having doubt of getting update in India since I am using it on airtel after official unlocking from AT&T but everything went smooth.

Add me to the list of impressed and satisfied, Mango users.  I spent an hour last night watching baseball as my phone updated itself in the home office.  MSFT great job....  WP7.5 developers I have two tasks for you  now allow me to connect natively to my Win 7 HTPC and more importantly make sure Windows 8 developers make a product this stable and cool to use.  You have raised the bar on what a Windows product should be.

@Scubadog: I don't know whether I have (or had) Focus 1.3 or 1.4, though I just bought them if that helps. How can I tell? Looks like "dcdonald" had trouble too. The update bricked his Focus!  I hope they will give him a replacement.

As for music, I'm a huge music listener too, not 600 CD's but maybe 500. My Windows Mobile AT&T Tilt2 is regularly synched with my Windows XP PC and constantly playing.  I liked the Zune "Smart DJ" feature as I could listen to new music similiar to artists I know and like.

Also, more and more, I'm thinking that my big collection of MP3's on a hard drive is more of a burden then a benefit. The songs never synched perfectly with my Tilt2 (some would increment play count and date played, some wouldn't) and album art often wasn't tranferred to the device (do you know how to fix that?). Anyway, streaming music in might be a less combersome alternative, that is just like Zune. :-)

@Olda

It means its still rolling out. No worries, you should be seeing your update soon.

And your English is just fine =)

@Captain Eric, if you power down and pop your battery out you should see the revision printed in the battery slot.  I'm tending to think that you have the 1.4, which would probably explain the issue, since it looks like they're still testing some bits--likely not the Mango update itself but rather the Samsung-unique parts.  But, it's possible yours happened to be on their shelves since the original launch and you do have a 1.3, in which case I'm not sure why you'd be running into that problem.  I bought mine on launch day last year and it updated smoothly to Mango and almost-smoothly for the Samsung firmware.

And I'd agree with you (and many others) on relying more on streaming except the sad fact is that signal is not ubiquitous yet.  I live in Texas on the border of Mexico and as soon as you step outside the county limits you are in No-Man's Land.  So, having stuff actually stored on the phone is critical since it may literally be HOURS before you cross into another bit of civilization and get a signal (Texas is BIG, y'all!).  And, to be honest, half the time you DO get a signal it's Edge, not 3G or 4G.  So, until 3G and 4G are reachable everywhere, I rely heavily on builtin storage...8 or 16GB just doesn't cut it.

@ThaRebeliouZ, you can't seriously expect Microsoft to announce which of all those suggestions (which change daily) are A) being accepted for definite inclusion into any future update and B) when those might happen, can you?  Seriously, you can't get Apple or Google to do that.  Oh, you might hear of one or two features, but rarely will you hear the definitive "yep, it's in there".  In fact, do you realize that quite a few of the features that are in Mango were, by their own admission, "slipped in"?  Clearly, there are definite things they want/need to do with Tango, largely to support some of the newer specs (low-end,etc.) according to most reports.  Depending on when they are internally targeting the deployment of Tango, we might see a few of the easier to manifest suggestions or things that weren't ready in time for Mango.  But surely you've played this game long enough to know that there simply certain things Microsoft will not communicate, outside of saying "we can't comment on what's currently in the works, but as soon as we have something we can share we'll pass it on".  That's standard practice, like it or not.

@Laeufer983, as you can see, we're all wondering why Microsoft hasn't really had any sort of a marketing campaign going.  But, worse than that, the lamestream media loves their Apples and Robots, so there's a journalistic bias there.  In more than one instance I've looked at publications to see that they took the initiative to write about the iPhone 4S but did NOT write a cotton-picking thing about WP7.5 or the remarkable story of deploying across multiple devices and multiple carriers....something Android will never accomplish.

So, it's still going to be world-of-mouth and grassroots campaign.

"Why not 100 percent? Because we’re still collecting and analyzing installation data from our smaller operators, and need to watch it little bit longer to make sure everything is OK"!

Is Microsoft not confident? Or is pushing updates new for Microsoft?

I posted problems I'm having with it last night, The post disappeared sometime this morning, It appears that only happy, success stories are going to be allowed on this blog. Typical.

The update seemed to go fine for me but now my phone randomly makes ding sounds.   It can go for a few seconds and then stop or it can continue for 20min+.  I thought it may have been an app that I had installed so to rule that out, I reset my phone.  So a factory phone still having the same issue.  The only option I have is to turn the volume off and a phone with no volume is no good.  How would I go about getting help to get this fixed?

I have just found a new issue.  My voicemail function no longer works.  :(

For those having trouble "forcing" the update.  I tried over 100 times to unplug my network cable at the right time but it never worked.  I pulled the cable anywhere from immediately to waiting as much as 5 seconds, nothing worked.  The next day I opened the screen in Windows that shows your network adapters.  Splitting 50/50 the adapter screen with the Zune update screen I hit Update on Zune then immediately right clicked on my network card and chose to disable.  After two tried I got my update.  Give this a try.

Samsung Focus SGH i917 still waiting..I'm loving what I am hearing about the update. I have tried to force the update but no luck so I am going to have to wait...

@scubadog - I just had to throw that out there since they have an accepted ideas/suggestions tab on that one site but im not going to be all disappointed if nothing is officially announced but people do like to know that they're being heard.

As for Microsoft releasing some apps in the marketplace, they just know their own operating system better than anyone else so i think they can make some great apps for us to showcase what the OS can do with the right tools and programming.

@ThaRebeliouZ I'm sure they could if they tried, but would they let us...hey, what's that new blog post: windowsteamblog.com/.../control-your-xbox-with-your-windows-phone-using-the-xbox-companion-app.aspx

Yeah, Apps ;)

is it normal, then, that some of the new features described are not on my phone for the update I received today? there were a few things...linking the messaging together, i don't have 'local scout' update on bing either, or a personal email tile. im on htc hd7. Does this mean the rest of the features will arrive in a separate update?

Week in, I'm still waiting for the LG crap issue to be resolved. Never going to buy anything from them again.

I have 3 Samsung Focus i917 phones (1 is v1.3 and 2 are v1.4) on my account. What's the ETA for all of these to be updated?

@tsrblke - right on cue! :D that's exactly what I hope to see more of from Microsoft.

@jbrunick,

I wasn't really offended or overly sensitive about the remark. Its just silly and childish, regardless of whatever one's reason for picking the product they want. And I don't know every Apple, Google or MS product owner. The one's I do know love their products, warts and all (myself included). I also don't know if my original post was clear. I currently own a WP (Samsung Focus). So my response wasn't as some crazed Apple fanboy (though I do own an iPod touch). I guess I may just be overly sensitive to internet comment sections silliness.

Back on topic:

My phone has been updated. Is anyone else with the update experiencing funny lines on some of the tiles when you go back to the home screen? The lines quickly come and go. But you can see them on the edges of some of the lives tiles, particularly created group tiles. They tend to be the same color as your theme

@Tony i noticed them lil graphical glitches too on the Group/People tiles, very minor but i hope Microsoft is aware of them.

I am very disappointed with mango update. I thought it will bring the basic functions that Microsoft neglected in windows 7 mobile. It is not possible to forward a text message or copy text from a text message.  When you copy a telephone number it is not possible to past it in dial pad. People have been crying about basic functionality but Microsoft did not listen.

@riz699,

Copying texts messages was already covered, press and hold on the message.

I swear I've forwared messages before, but I don't actually remember (maybe I just copied them and pasted them into a new text).  What's really needed is a better manual of how things work. (The press and hold menues are cool, but hard to find.

As for pasting in the dialer, yeah, that's needed.  The "Autohighlight phone numbers" thing only works when people type in phone numbers in 10 digit format it seems (maybe I'm wrong) so I get a few that just don't autohighlight.

How about sending out a quick update to your update to fix your broken WLM client in WP7.5?

It doesn't support MPOP properly, and the push Notifications are late, if you even get them.  Griefs the living hell out of people like me who carry two smartphones and sometimes leave one at home and like to be logged in on both of them.

Also, you cannot send photos form Mango to someone on an Android or iOS device using BeejiveIM or some other clients because it tells you they aren't using the latest version of WLM.

Video Evidence of how it goes inoperable when you use Multiple Points of Presense.  Obviously the Android Phone has no issues keeping up (getting 8 out of 10 return messages from MTBot).  WP7 Mango?  Well...  It got absolutely nothing.

That's pathetic:  www.youtube.com/watch

I have a Samsung Omnia 7 and got the update 2 days ago. So far so good but I have only one complain. Will we ever see Flash in our smartphones?

@Elisian: As far as anyone knows Flash won't be coming to Windows Phones. Looking at how Microsoft also removed it from the Metro-Version of Windows 8's IE10 it seems that Apple and Microsoft really plan on killing Flash off rather sooner than later.

@Elisian.  Nope, No Flash.  Microsoft has said this many times, many ways.  Flash is old, fat code that saps battery life.  Everything is moving to HTML5.  Even YouTube now supports HTML5 streaming of their videos and correctly recognize WP7's IE9.  I avoid sites that rely on Flash and I routinely send their administrators nasty-grams telling them to get off of Flash.  One voice in the wilderness.  So, no Flash.  Apple has taken the same stance.  So it's only lame Android users who are stuck in the past.

When will I get my dam Samsung omnia 7 update :( They should have all come out at the same time..

@riz699 like @tsrblke said, if you press and hold on a SMS/MMS/IM chat bubble you will get options to copy the text, forward the message, or delete the message.  Once you get used to press-and-hold you'll find all sorts of features show up across the device (like press-and-hold in the What's New feed in People Hub to be able to manually refresh the feed).

What I don't get is the following. Mango supports "Tethering" now (WiFi Hotspot) and our Omnia 7 phones and carrier also support that cool fearure.  But for whatever reason, "Interner Sharing" is not possible. Only with strange hacks can you enable it. We have 12 Windows Phones (all Omnia 7) here in our company and we need Tethering. I fear it's time to switch to iPhone 4S :(

Funny Story---- So I have been dying to get this update and have been talking about it to everyone I know including my fiance (We both have WP7 Phones because I had her get one cuz I knew she would love it). So everyday I have been checking for the update, I have the HD7S, and everyday I get the your phone's software is up to date :(. I tell my fiance to sync her phone after we updated her zune client and what happens the first time she plugs it in? Oh you guessed it, she got the update(she has the HD7).  SIGH lol, So the person most excited about it (me) is still waiting. It will come sooner or later, but man, can it please be sooner......I can't take it anymore!!

At any time becomes  update available for all ?? .....

I was counting, and since Mango was released (definitely not unleashed) in the morning of the 27th, today is day 10. HD7S? Then I reread the Scheduling as such: "typically lasts 10 business days or less." Typically ugh. @Trujillo, same story with me, that is funny! What does my wife know about upcoming updates with codenames, or about championing Windows phone to friends and colleagues. And she gets the update before me? Ugh. lets go!

Good day, I am from South Africa and received a Smasung Omnia7 Windows 7 Phone. I do not think that the new Mango is ready for this phone yet unless you have some good news for me? We can also not yet access the Marketplace due to restrictions. PLEASE HELP!

Hey guys! I updated my Trophy last week and have really enjoyed all the things that Mango has allowed me to do and I still haven't used some of the features. I LOVE voice to text, voice bing search and the local search stuff. However, I have had my phone lock up on me twice and the only way I could get it back was by pulling the battery. This has NEVER happened before.  Here's when it's happening.  I listen to podcasts through Zune over my Ford MySync all the time. Most of the time I'm not streaming but it's a file on the phone. The phone seems to lock when I leave the car. I do not turn off the podcast, it's suppose to do that automatically. All I see is the lock screen with no other information on it (Time, calendar and mail are not showing). I did force the update. What to you think I can do to resolve this?

10 Days yo! How about releasing Mango/7.5 for HD7S, or an update on progress..anything but silence! We are your loyal customers, how about we get treated as such.

Update: we need Tethering on our Omnia 7 phones so much. So we contacted Samsung and they told us that the phone can handle it without any problem. Our carrier also told us that Tethering is enabled. But the Internet Sharing option is "locked" in the legacy Omnia 7 phones and you can only enable it via strange hacks. We paid alot of money for the phones and we are (still) a supporter of Windows Phone. But I really don't understand why Microsoft decided to "lock" this very important feature. VERY frustrating situation. I am writing this message from a computer that makes use of Android tethering - something my super-duper Windows Phone can't do :(